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Question: Do you think GoT will delve into the history of White Walkers
Posted on 6/3/15 at 8:38 am
Posted on 6/3/15 at 8:38 am
Do you think the show will present us with some flashbacks or some dialogue further expanding on the White Walkers?
From what I hear, there is also very little discussion of them in the books (correct me if I'm wrong).
I am most intrigued about their background and history more than any other group/family.
From what I hear, there is also very little discussion of them in the books (correct me if I'm wrong).
I am most intrigued about their background and history more than any other group/family.
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Posted on 6/3/15 at 8:44 am to The Eric
A World of Ice and Fire
You can always read the books as well.
You can always read the books as well.
This post was edited on 6/3/15 at 8:45 am
Posted on 6/3/15 at 8:48 am to The Eric
I don't think they'll do a flashback, but I think their origins will be revealed in the shows and the books.
And honestly, we know more about the Others from the show than we do from the books. The Battle of Hardhome didn't happen in the books (or at least yet), and we didn't know for a fact what happened to Craster's sons.
And honestly, we know more about the Others from the show than we do from the books. The Battle of Hardhome didn't happen in the books (or at least yet), and we didn't know for a fact what happened to Craster's sons.
Posted on 6/3/15 at 8:57 am to The Eric
i hope not
Posted on 6/3/15 at 9:08 am to TaxmanMSU
I read through AWOIAF but don't recall much being shared about the white walkers. It did get a little tiresome at times, but seems like I would remember that section. Do you recall there being dedicated chapter to white walkers?
Posted on 6/3/15 at 9:17 am to Purple Lion
It's one of the early sections, after they talk about the first men and the children of the forest. The Long Winter is the name of the the section I believe.
Posted on 6/3/15 at 9:19 am to OMLandshark
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And honestly, we know more about the Others from the show than we do from the books. The Battle of Hardhome didn't happen in the books (or at least yet), and we didn't know for a fact what happened to Craster's sons.
Yeah, the books haven't revealed that the Nights King was creating Others by turning babies. They also haven't revealed that the Nights King is the one leading the Others/White Walkers. I personally think it is goofy that the Nights King is the one apparently leading and creating WWs since the Others were probably around long before the Nights King was born, much less when he became the Nights King.
My only guess as to how the Nights King became the leader and propagator of the Others is that the original Others were wiped out during the War for the Dawn, and the Nights King happened upon the means to create them again. But if the original Others were wiped out, why build the Wall?
This post was edited on 6/3/15 at 9:21 am
Posted on 6/3/15 at 9:22 am to Purple Lion
quote:I do not recall sorry. I have a copy at my house but haven't read through it all. But if there's any info on them it'll be in the books or in that book.
Do you recall there being dedicated chapter to white walkers?
Posted on 6/3/15 at 9:22 am to The Eric
There is some good info on TSOIAF wiki that isn't really spoilerish. I don't think anyone really knows much about them, but I'm in the same boat as you, I want to know the history of the WW and the lands beyond the Wall.
Posted on 6/3/15 at 9:49 am to The Eric
The books will to some extent. They already did a little when talking about the history of Westeros and the North. The show may to less extent. It will have to be tied to Bran's storyline, the children of the forest, and the tree guy.
Posted on 6/3/15 at 9:54 am to OMLandshark
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and we didn't know for a fact what happened to Craster's sons.
I think it was strongly enough hinted at for it to be a safe assumption in the books. At least I remember accepting it as fact before it was revealed in the show.
Posted on 6/3/15 at 10:03 am to The Eric
Sam has been reading up on them. Any info will probably come from him
Posted on 6/3/15 at 10:13 am to The Eric
Its not brought up in any literature out there but I strongly believe they are and always have been their own distinct race but have had no want or reason to travel south to do any harm. I believe they solidified a peace with the First men and the Children but the Andals and eventually the 7 kingdoms pissed them off with their destruction of the old Gods and encroachment on their territory.
Just my 2cents.
Just my 2cents.
Posted on 6/3/15 at 10:24 am to SundayFunday
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Its not brought up in any literature out there but I strongly believe they are and always have been their own distinct race but have had no want or reason to travel south to do any harm. I believe they solidified a peace with the First men and the Children but the Andals and eventually the 7 kingdoms pissed them off with their destruction of the old Gods and encroachment on their territory.
So if they are their own race, what is the need for turning sacrificed babies?
And why is the Nights King now apparently leading them, and the one turning the sacrificed babies?
Posted on 6/3/15 at 10:31 am to Bamatab
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They also haven't revealed that the Nights King is the one leading the Others/White Walkers
Wait, the Night's King isn't a white walker?
Posted on 6/3/15 at 10:42 am to boxcarbarney
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Wait, the Night's King isn't a white walker?
The Night's King was a Lord Commander of the Night's Watch not long after the Wall was supposedly finished. Supposedly he fell in love with some sort of white skinned/blue eyed woman or something beyond the wall, and brought her back. He declared himself King and her Queen, and ruled the Night's Watch as such. Supposedly terrible stuff happened during his reign, like making sacrifices to the Others.
Eventually Brandon the Breaker (the ruling Stark) joined forces with a Wildling king, and they defeated the Night's King and freed the Night's Watch.
Here is a link to his story: LINK
This post was edited on 6/3/15 at 10:51 am
Posted on 6/3/15 at 11:09 am to The Eric
This was at the back of my mind and I think I've finally tracked down at least some stuff on it:
At one point fairly on I remember that when trying to give some sort of info on the Others (White Walkers), GRRM mentioned something about entities from Irish folklore called the Sihe.
This is the best link I could find to that so far: Info on the White Walkers
Here's the quote:
Interestingly when I googled Sihe it gave another name for them and said that the "usual spelling" was Sith. Aos Si (At least that was interesting to me since quite a few people were making comments/comparisons to Darth Maul in last week's White Walker/Night's King appearance).
At one point fairly on I remember that when trying to give some sort of info on the Others (White Walkers), GRRM mentioned something about entities from Irish folklore called the Sihe.
This is the best link I could find to that so far: Info on the White Walkers
Here's the quote:
quote:
“...The Others are not dead. They are a strange, beautiful...think, ok... the Sidhe made of ice, something like that... a different sort of life... inhuman, elegant, dangerous.” Game of Thrones: The Graphic Novel by GRRM
Interestingly when I googled Sihe it gave another name for them and said that the "usual spelling" was Sith. Aos Si (At least that was interesting to me since quite a few people were making comments/comparisons to Darth Maul in last week's White Walker/Night's King appearance).
This post was edited on 6/3/15 at 11:12 am
Posted on 6/3/15 at 11:20 am to Bamatab
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So if they are their own race, what is the need for turning sacrificed babies?
The Show does not, possibly not the book. If I is in the book, maybe they don't reproduce, are immortal, and the only way to increase their numbers is to turn human babies into themselves.
quote:
And why is the Nights King now apparently leading them, and the one turning the sacrificed babies?
Someone else answered this I think
Posted on 6/3/15 at 11:31 am to SundayFunday
quote:
Someone else answered this I think
What was the answer?
Posted on 6/3/15 at 11:31 am to SundayFunday
How does GRRM keep all of this shite straight? Does he have a big white board or something?
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