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Posted on 2/2/15 at 12:31 pm to TigerMyth36
We've had someones neck snapped. we had someone blown up by bomb, we had some jump off a building, we’ve had someone set on fire. What can we do next? / I know let’s kill somebody with a bullet slug that’s already been fired.
Is It interesting to anyone else that earlier seasons that children were given cortexiphan to give them powers that will help save the world from the invaders that are destroying the world. Yet when they actually need people with these powers cortexiphan is an after thought
Is It interesting to anyone else that earlier seasons that children were given cortexiphan to give them powers that will help save the world from the invaders that are destroying the world. Yet when they actually need people with these powers cortexiphan is an after thought
Posted on 2/2/15 at 2:52 pm to TigerMyth36
quote:
Then we start the Lost Rewatch
Motherfricker, don't tempt me. Don't you dare...
Here are my thoughts/comments/complaints (I had more complaints than normal I feel like)..
Five-Twenty-Ten
Peter is still not only wanking around in public, but he's causing scenes (like standing in traffic). I get what he's trying to do and that he's predicting futures, but it's ridiculous that he's not being caught. Come on, man..
So it's well known that Fringe team's lab is at Harvard....might wanna at the very least, I don't know...block out the windows or something? Anybody walking by can simply look down into the window and see everything and everybody.
Did they really just not watch the whole tape? I assume they watched the rest off-screen, but damn...
I don't understand this Bell talk...it feels like bad writing and doesn't make much sense to me for some reason. Even the description on Fringepedia seems convoluted:
quote:
In the few weeks since Captain Windmark partially wiped Walter's memory, his issues with William Bell haven't guided or distracted Walter's emotions. With their collective memory intact, the team fills Walter in on the Bell conflict before they were Ambered, which in their experience was only a month or two ago. Bell had claimed allegiance to Walter in his fight to defeat the invading forces from the 27th century, then switched sides to gain favor with the Observers, betraying Walter and their age-old friendship. Walter remembers the betrayal. While he was held captive and being tortured, he managed to escape... Bell feigned assisting him, then drove Walter right back to his captors. Everyone on the team recounts where they were, and what they were doing, when they Ambered themselves - Bell was the only one that could have exposed their whereabouts, eventually making the Amber necessary. If we couldn't trust Bell then, why would we trust now that Bell has, or even had, the Beacons they need to reconstitute Walter's master plan to defeat the invading forces. There is only one way to know with certainty - take Bell's severed hand to his private storage and see what's inside.
That seems like an awful lot of bullshite that someone came up with. I mean, I guess technically I can buy it since Bell wanted to destroy both universes and reign supreme over flying dragon people and all, but still..
This may be small, but if Peter knows exactly when the Observers will walk into the building, then why would he need to get Anil to call him when they do?
Nina is giving the Fringe team an unstable machine? She even mentions that it is an old machine...do they not have newer technology that is more stable and less dangerous?
Robotic observer Peter sucks arse. He's good though, just not as good as he thinks he is.
The Human Kind
So Peter sees Walter all over billboards in NYC. Surely he is wanted as well since he's, you know, not only Walter's son but also part of the Fringe team himself. Yet he's walking around in broad daylight in the biggest city in the country. This is really starting to piss me right off.
This is just like that older episode where the dude kept predicting futures and using his blue pen to kill people chain reaction style.
Now we see Liv is on the reward wire. So the Obs and the government are clearly after these people..
Now Peter is not only walking around NYfrickingC, but he's covered in blood and is carrying a bloody knife. Come the frick on, man..
The Obs have all this tech implanted into their systems, and can teleport pretty much wherever they want to, but Wondmark takes the stairs when the elevator is out?
Wow...Liv, nice work finding Peter in the middle of fricking New York. Even if she knew the area ("the square" or whatever), that's still an awesome guess as to what building, floor, balcony, etc. he was standing on without even so much as a phone call to see where he was. Impressive.
I won't even get into the fact that they are driving 4.5 hours to and from NYC from Boston (and if there is even the slightest chance that they're flying, I will lose my mind :lol:).
I feel like this show is trying to get too cute, a la Pete Carroll last night. Peter is watching down on Windmark, and clearly Windmark doesn't know that he's being watched, and Peter even basically says as much. So why can't Peter teleport right to him, snap his neck (which he says is how he will kill him anyway) or shoot him or whatever? It just doesn't make any fricking sense.
Again, Peter basically performs brain/spinal surgery on himself, only this time with no mirrors to even help himself out. He's quite talented.
But that's good though...at least we get rid of stupid arse Rogue Peter. He sucked arse.
This season has such a weird feel to it...it almost doesn't even feel like Fringe. I like it, and am enjoying the episodes, but it almost feels like a standalone season to me at this point. A lot of the old things that made Fringe so great aren't present in S5. I mean, this post has almost nothing bu bitching from me, and normally there are just a couple of things that bother me, but in a jokey way...this time it seems like I was actually distracted from teh episodes because of the amount of bullshite that was taking place within them. Definitely a different feel for sure.
This post was edited on 2/2/15 at 3:29 pm
Posted on 2/4/15 at 4:51 pm to CocomoLSU
Sorry I was behind on the thread this week but here come my comments the best I can remember the episodes.
Five-Twenty-Ten
This episode was ok, wasn't one of the best of the series and may be one of the worst ones. Nothing to memorable to me.
This Peter going rogue stuff is ok but not great. He is starting to lose emotion even though he is driven by the emotion of revenge.
I don't like that peter got the tech and it just seems to easy for Peter. Every observer has the ability to manipulate the future and Peter is able to do it pretty well? Maybe they are letting him? Maybe it is all a part of their plan or something, but it just seemed to easy.
I do like how they are playing on the issues that this is causing between Peter and Olivia. It always seems like Olivia is the sane one in all of this and the one to bring things into perspective. It sucks that peter when behind her back on this, but I guess that happens in many relationships.
I think it was in this episode can't remember but the moment when Olivia finally decides to watch the video Walter gave her was a touching moment. Even to see her reflection in the TV screen was pretty cool. I guess Olivia is trying to hold on to the good memories of her child while Peter can't het his mind off what the observer did to her.
Overall decent but not great episode.
The Human Kind
so we continue this dual plot line going on right now in the story. You have what olivia was doing and what Peter was doing.
Let's start with Olivia. This part of the show was decent and some good parts. IT is pretty cool that the people with the magnets were expecting her to come, but Olivia, being Olivia doesn't trust them at all. I like how they set that up and the conflict that happened there.
Now to Peter, ok this was just kinda stupid and way off the story line. I guess it was needed little bit but show would have been better if Peter didn't start to become a emotionless human. This part of the show kinda makes you feel like you are in a video game or something, trying to manipulate other people to cause them to do something. Peter in a way discovers his ability is limited but he of course doesn't believe it. I think the last emotion he is holding onto (revenge) is making him blind to what is really going on.
Back to Olivia, I love BA moments of Olivia she always seems to find a way to make escape and killings look cool. Used the bullet slug her daughter always held on to, to kill and escape. Head shot, than finds that bullet to save it, kills the other guy head shot. I wonder if alternate olivia rubbed off on this olivia because those were some great shots.
Now the plot lines seem to converge at the end of this episode, which was one of the only highlights of this show. The montage of the memories was a great moment. I love how Olivia talks about what we have over the observers is love. Now I think they equated love to an emotion which I have big problems with but that is for another time. Forgetting that issue, I thought the end of this episode was great. Observers don't love, don't forget about the love you have for me (Olivia) and your daughter. It's great that love moved peter to remove the tech. If I remember correctly Love plays a role in the end too. We shall see though.
Both episodes were Meh, but I think the ones coming up are much better.
Five-Twenty-Ten
This episode was ok, wasn't one of the best of the series and may be one of the worst ones. Nothing to memorable to me.
This Peter going rogue stuff is ok but not great. He is starting to lose emotion even though he is driven by the emotion of revenge.
I don't like that peter got the tech and it just seems to easy for Peter. Every observer has the ability to manipulate the future and Peter is able to do it pretty well? Maybe they are letting him? Maybe it is all a part of their plan or something, but it just seemed to easy.
I do like how they are playing on the issues that this is causing between Peter and Olivia. It always seems like Olivia is the sane one in all of this and the one to bring things into perspective. It sucks that peter when behind her back on this, but I guess that happens in many relationships
. I think it was in this episode can't remember but the moment when Olivia finally decides to watch the video Walter gave her was a touching moment. Even to see her reflection in the TV screen was pretty cool. I guess Olivia is trying to hold on to the good memories of her child while Peter can't het his mind off what the observer did to her.
Overall decent but not great episode.
The Human Kind
so we continue this dual plot line going on right now in the story. You have what olivia was doing and what Peter was doing.
Let's start with Olivia. This part of the show was decent and some good parts. IT is pretty cool that the people with the magnets were expecting her to come, but Olivia, being Olivia doesn't trust them at all. I like how they set that up and the conflict that happened there.
Now to Peter, ok this was just kinda stupid and way off the story line. I guess it was needed little bit but show would have been better if Peter didn't start to become a emotionless human. This part of the show kinda makes you feel like you are in a video game or something, trying to manipulate other people to cause them to do something. Peter in a way discovers his ability is limited but he of course doesn't believe it. I think the last emotion he is holding onto (revenge) is making him blind to what is really going on.
Back to Olivia, I love BA moments of Olivia she always seems to find a way to make escape and killings look cool. Used the bullet slug her daughter always held on to, to kill and escape. Head shot, than finds that bullet to save it, kills the other guy head shot. I wonder if alternate olivia rubbed off on this olivia because those were some great shots.
Now the plot lines seem to converge at the end of this episode, which was one of the only highlights of this show. The montage of the memories was a great moment. I love how Olivia talks about what we have over the observers is love. Now I think they equated love to an emotion which I have big problems with but that is for another time. Forgetting that issue, I thought the end of this episode was great. Observers don't love, don't forget about the love you have for me (Olivia) and your daughter. It's great that love moved peter to remove the tech. If I remember correctly Love plays a role in the end too. We shall see though.
Both episodes were Meh, but I think the ones coming up are much better.
This post was edited on 2/4/15 at 4:52 pm
Posted on 2/4/15 at 4:51 pm to TigerMyth36
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Then we start the Lost Rewatch
I guess I would do that. I've re-watched it a couple of times already but not in a way that I discuss it with others.
Posted on 2/5/15 at 4:07 am to CocomoLSU
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I want to mess her hair up SO BADLY in this pic.... in the nicest possible way.
Posted on 2/9/15 at 1:05 pm to yurintroubl
OP is updated with new assignment for this week.
I didn't get a chance to watch the current two over the weekend, so I will try to do that in the next night or two. Also, it looks like we still need to discuss last week's episodes a bit more.
I hope to respond to catholic's comments at some point as well.
I didn't get a chance to watch the current two over the weekend, so I will try to do that in the next night or two. Also, it looks like we still need to discuss last week's episodes a bit more.
I hope to respond to catholic's comments at some point as well.
Posted on 2/9/15 at 3:44 pm to CocomoLSU
Black Blotter
He said Astrid
I’ve had a couple of those nights before can’t sleep those totally suck.
LSD!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! This is going to be a totally awesome episode, he is already seeing people and things. Nope it wasn’t LSD something much harder
Walter is really really tripping, What is going on? This is crazy, yeah that is just super super crazy. Walter is seeing things, matches magically move through space, he sees what is going on around him like a TV screen, this is the highest I’ve ever seen walter.
Skeleton hand with a gun.
I can’t remember but I don’t think that is Donald maybe it is, but we shall see. Another thing hwo has no-one found this? Did someone just turn it on?
Yep I was right not Donald.
Oh harsh words there, no God but me, your not God Walter, try again. Now Nina is in this vision. Astro you just going to sit there and do nothing?
His visions are leading them to clues? Oh wow that is pretty freaky I kinda want walter to look.
Matter displacement just to replace a can opener? Walter has some crazy ideas.
Wait so Walter thought he was in New York than all of a sudeent he is at a dock. That is one crazy drug he took.
Observer kid!!!!!!!!!!!
HERE WE GO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I remember the first time I watched this Monty Python tribue, I had to pause it because I was laughing so hard. I think this is the greatest moment of Fringe.
Also what was the fairy? It looked a lot like Astrid or is it someone else.
This was a solid episode, maybe not the best of the season, but Walter tripping like he did was just amazing, so funny.
He said Astrid
I’ve had a couple of those nights before can’t sleep those totally suck.
LSD!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! This is going to be a totally awesome episode, he is already seeing people and things. Nope it wasn’t LSD something much harder
Walter is really really tripping, What is going on? This is crazy, yeah that is just super super crazy. Walter is seeing things, matches magically move through space, he sees what is going on around him like a TV screen, this is the highest I’ve ever seen walter.
Skeleton hand with a gun.
I can’t remember but I don’t think that is Donald maybe it is, but we shall see. Another thing hwo has no-one found this? Did someone just turn it on?
Yep I was right not Donald.
Oh harsh words there, no God but me, your not God Walter, try again. Now Nina is in this vision. Astro you just going to sit there and do nothing?
His visions are leading them to clues? Oh wow that is pretty freaky I kinda want walter to look.
Matter displacement just to replace a can opener? Walter has some crazy ideas.
Wait so Walter thought he was in New York than all of a sudeent he is at a dock. That is one crazy drug he took.
Observer kid!!!!!!!!!!!
HERE WE GO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I remember the first time I watched this Monty Python tribue, I had to pause it because I was laughing so hard. I think this is the greatest moment of Fringe.
Also what was the fairy? It looked a lot like Astrid or is it someone else.
This was a solid episode, maybe not the best of the season, but Walter tripping like he did was just amazing, so funny.
This post was edited on 2/9/15 at 3:45 pm
Posted on 2/9/15 at 7:09 pm to catholictigerfan
I'm still one behind from last week, plus the two this week. I was sick yesterday and busy today, so I won't get started until tomorrow.
Posted on 2/9/15 at 9:21 pm to TigerMyth36
I watched both episodes from this past week tonight. So hopefully I'll get to this thread in the morning.
Posted on 2/10/15 at 11:13 am to CocomoLSU
Black blotter
LSD is a hell of a drug
.
So we have a mention of Sam Wise but no mention of Charley whatsoever
Does the show ever specify whether Walter was in the lab with Carla Warren when she tried to burn his book. It would have been easier to take it and hide it or even shred it.
I don’t know anything about Monty Python
Anomaly XB-6783746
Say no to the mid wheel drive chair
Why would the observers allow the Ministry of science to exist. It poses a threat to them.
The technology used be the observers to trace what Nina said was cool.
I sometimes think that there was something deeper between Walter and Nina, he definitely was a part of the free love era
I hope they paid that kid a lot of money to shave his dome and eyebrows. All that makeup caked on him almost makes him look statuesque
I wonder what fundamentally changed in Michael that allowed him to exist without tech. Do you think the observers get rid of those with anomalies because they fear they may have more power?
I’m glad Donald has finally been revealed that was bothering me that I couldn’t remember.
LSD is a hell of a drug
.
So we have a mention of Sam Wise but no mention of Charley whatsoever
Does the show ever specify whether Walter was in the lab with Carla Warren when she tried to burn his book. It would have been easier to take it and hide it or even shred it.
I don’t know anything about Monty Python
Anomaly XB-6783746
Say no to the mid wheel drive chair
Why would the observers allow the Ministry of science to exist. It poses a threat to them.
The technology used be the observers to trace what Nina said was cool.
I sometimes think that there was something deeper between Walter and Nina, he definitely was a part of the free love era
I hope they paid that kid a lot of money to shave his dome and eyebrows. All that makeup caked on him almost makes him look statuesque
I wonder what fundamentally changed in Michael that allowed him to exist without tech. Do you think the observers get rid of those with anomalies because they fear they may have more power?
I’m glad Donald has finally been revealed that was bothering me that I couldn’t remember.
Posted on 2/10/15 at 11:54 am to jamsmiley
Black Blotter
Is this Walter's old assistant chick who died in the fire? I think it is, but can't remember..
So wait, Peter and Liv are together now? I thought they weren't together...because they wre split when everything got ambered, and so now they weren't together anymore? This is confusing.
Sam Weiss. Damn..I liked him.
So Liv says they knew him from a different timeline. What. The. frick???? I thought this was the same timeline and that was Peter's "true" Olivia and all that. So did reality change and peoples' pasts were permantently different than what we watched for four seasons? I AM SO CONFUSED.
Is that the beginnings of the machine in Walter's sketch book?
Walter, one of the most wanted men in the country, is taking cabs? Okay good...it's just his imagination and the acid.
And that's not the machine...it was the beginnings of his device that let him cross over to the altverse. Okay, good #2. At least I'm following along with some of this shite.
Monty Python? I get that he's on acid, and this is pretty funny, but I remember bitching about this when the show first aired...there is a lot of filler bullshite going on considering there are like 4 episodes left. Also reminds me of the old intro to You Can't Do That on Television.
And just for good measure:
Man, I used to love that show.
Good ole Michael, the Observer kid...wasn't he September or something like that?
Another reference to the original timeline.
This is really confusing me and pissing me off that they are referencing the timeline, yet some of these things are still happening/existing.
Anomaly XB-6783746
I don't know why, but Michael always reminds me of Mac from Mac and Me.
Obligatory:
Having this kid in public is stupid, but I guess they can't really bring Nina to where they are, and at least he has a hoodie on.
How could Nina not know that she was being tracked?
Now they're walking around in public, again, carrying pieces of equipment. It's like they are BEGGING to be caught.
If I remember right, Nina sort of goes out like a boss pretty soon...
Season 5 is SUPER weird to me, but that being said, Windmark is a fantastic villain. He's great.
Lizard speech? Yuuuuuup. Here goes Nina. I remember that, and it was pretty awesome. Like a fricking boss, Nina.
I realize they have to get the boy back, but going back to that lab after they knew it (and Nina) was compromised was a bad idea...at least with all of them going there. Seriously, they are begging to be caught, or the loyalists and Observers are completely fricking stupid. It shouldn't bother me this much, but it does.
And why wouldn't the Observers/loyalists check the video feed? Liv and Peter did about 20 seconds of detective work and found the kid.
I remember that CGI tear.
I keep wondering how much this actor kid got paid to just sit there and do/say nothing.
Oh yeah...it's Donald that is September, not the kid. That's right.
Three episodes left!
Is this Walter's old assistant chick who died in the fire? I think it is, but can't remember..
So wait, Peter and Liv are together now? I thought they weren't together...because they wre split when everything got ambered, and so now they weren't together anymore? This is confusing.
Sam Weiss. Damn..I liked him.
So Liv says they knew him from a different timeline. What. The. frick???? I thought this was the same timeline and that was Peter's "true" Olivia and all that. So did reality change and peoples' pasts were permantently different than what we watched for four seasons? I AM SO CONFUSED.
Is that the beginnings of the machine in Walter's sketch book?
Walter, one of the most wanted men in the country, is taking cabs? Okay good...it's just his imagination and the acid.
And that's not the machine...it was the beginnings of his device that let him cross over to the altverse. Okay, good #2. At least I'm following along with some of this shite.
Monty Python? I get that he's on acid, and this is pretty funny, but I remember bitching about this when the show first aired...there is a lot of filler bullshite going on considering there are like 4 episodes left. Also reminds me of the old intro to You Can't Do That on Television.
And just for good measure:
Man, I used to love that show. Good ole Michael, the Observer kid...wasn't he September or something like that?
Another reference to the original timeline.
This is really confusing me and pissing me off that they are referencing the timeline, yet some of these things are still happening/existing.
Anomaly XB-6783746
I don't know why, but Michael always reminds me of Mac from Mac and Me.
Obligatory:
Having this kid in public is stupid, but I guess they can't really bring Nina to where they are, and at least he has a hoodie on.
How could Nina not know that she was being tracked?
Now they're walking around in public, again, carrying pieces of equipment. It's like they are BEGGING to be caught.
If I remember right, Nina sort of goes out like a boss pretty soon...
Season 5 is SUPER weird to me, but that being said, Windmark is a fantastic villain. He's great.
Lizard speech? Yuuuuuup. Here goes Nina. I remember that, and it was pretty awesome. Like a fricking boss, Nina.
I realize they have to get the boy back, but going back to that lab after they knew it (and Nina) was compromised was a bad idea...at least with all of them going there. Seriously, they are begging to be caught, or the loyalists and Observers are completely fricking stupid. It shouldn't bother me this much, but it does.
And why wouldn't the Observers/loyalists check the video feed? Liv and Peter did about 20 seconds of detective work and found the kid.
I remember that CGI tear.
I keep wondering how much this actor kid got paid to just sit there and do/say nothing.
Oh yeah...it's Donald that is September, not the kid. That's right.
Three episodes left!
This post was edited on 2/10/15 at 11:57 am
Posted on 2/12/15 at 7:05 pm to CocomoLSU
Getting caught up.
Episode 5X08
The Human Kind
Still calling BS on the Observer tech. That thing would clearly have GPS tracking built in and they would know those two observers were dead and they would hop to the location and reign hell down on Team Fringe.
They have super tech and time travel abilities but can't stop a very rag tag group of rebels. On second watch it really does bug me. If they can move through time, then any action by Fringe should be easily stopped by the Future observers coming back in time to thwart the plan.
I'm a bit confused. Was Peter using Etta's apartment or is that a Pimp Shack he set up on the side. If it is Etta's then why didn't he have her booby trap go off at 5:42 killing Mr. W?
Time travel = no hazmats suits
So it was Etta's apartment. Nice job Peter. You could have ended Mr. W there in the apartment with Etta's bomb. Also probably could have snapped his neck with your super powers since he wouldn't be expecting your super abilities.
What was the point of the black chick having weird powers?
Back to Peter. If he is trying to see the right future path to kill Mr. W, shouldn't Mr. W be able to see the right path the thwart Peter?
Also, since they KNOW Peter is tracking them, wouldn't you think Mr. W would have an army of observers trying to track Peter? Hell, Pete is just casually walking about the city. You would think one of those young Nazis would turn him in.
Ok...good. At least Mr. W wasn't completely oblivious.
Give it a rest, mother Abigail.
If Peter has no emotion, wouldn't he realize revenge is pointless to the overall quest to reset the observers so wouldn't he stop trying to kill Mr. W?
Olivia going all MacGyver there, with a side dose of A-Team.
Blah blah blah. Dead person is still with us. No Olivia she isn't. You have memories of the good times, but Etta is DEAD. Don't listen to her Peter. Go Frack Windmark.
Episode 5X08
The Human Kind
Still calling BS on the Observer tech. That thing would clearly have GPS tracking built in and they would know those two observers were dead and they would hop to the location and reign hell down on Team Fringe.
They have super tech and time travel abilities but can't stop a very rag tag group of rebels. On second watch it really does bug me. If they can move through time, then any action by Fringe should be easily stopped by the Future observers coming back in time to thwart the plan.
I'm a bit confused. Was Peter using Etta's apartment or is that a Pimp Shack he set up on the side. If it is Etta's then why didn't he have her booby trap go off at 5:42 killing Mr. W?
Time travel = no hazmats suits
So it was Etta's apartment. Nice job Peter. You could have ended Mr. W there in the apartment with Etta's bomb. Also probably could have snapped his neck with your super powers since he wouldn't be expecting your super abilities.
What was the point of the black chick having weird powers?
Back to Peter. If he is trying to see the right future path to kill Mr. W, shouldn't Mr. W be able to see the right path the thwart Peter?
Also, since they KNOW Peter is tracking them, wouldn't you think Mr. W would have an army of observers trying to track Peter? Hell, Pete is just casually walking about the city. You would think one of those young Nazis would turn him in.
Ok...good. At least Mr. W wasn't completely oblivious.
Give it a rest, mother Abigail.
If Peter has no emotion, wouldn't he realize revenge is pointless to the overall quest to reset the observers so wouldn't he stop trying to kill Mr. W?
Olivia going all MacGyver there, with a side dose of A-Team.
Blah blah blah. Dead person is still with us. No Olivia she isn't. You have memories of the good times, but Etta is DEAD. Don't listen to her Peter. Go Frack Windmark.
This post was edited on 2/13/15 at 6:38 am
Posted on 2/12/15 at 8:03 pm to TigerMyth36
Episode 5X09
Black Blotter
How do they ever sleep? Every creak of the floor would freak me the F out. I would almost never be able to get a good night of rest.
Why does Peter care if he took drugs? Has there been one other time that anyone even paid attention when Walter was stoned out of his mind?
Did I miss why the signal started up again?
Why didn't Olivia recognize his bowling shoes?
They are called the Observers, yet they can't seem to observe a guy tripping balls even though his face is plastered all over the JumboTrons.
Why do loyalist dress like the Genii? Did they reboot Stargate Atlantis in the future? Maybe the Observers liked some Sam Carter.
It wasn't as much fun this time but I lost it the first time Walter slipped in to Monty Python land.
Too much Walter vs Mean Stinky Evil Walter.
Black Blotter
How do they ever sleep? Every creak of the floor would freak me the F out. I would almost never be able to get a good night of rest.
Why does Peter care if he took drugs? Has there been one other time that anyone even paid attention when Walter was stoned out of his mind?
Did I miss why the signal started up again?
Why didn't Olivia recognize his bowling shoes?
They are called the Observers, yet they can't seem to observe a guy tripping balls even though his face is plastered all over the JumboTrons.
Why do loyalist dress like the Genii? Did they reboot Stargate Atlantis in the future? Maybe the Observers liked some Sam Carter.
It wasn't as much fun this time but I lost it the first time Walter slipped in to Monty Python land.
Too much Walter vs Mean Stinky Evil Walter.
Posted on 2/12/15 at 9:03 pm to TigerMyth36
Episode 5X10
Anomaly XB-6783746
If Michael is so special, how come he can't talk or do ANYTHING useful. I bet those old folks were actually glad to see him leave.
Better not make Michael angry.
So Olivia can just pick up the phone and call Nina. I give up. The Observers are worse than the Washington Generals.
They are the Hamilton Burgers in the pantheon of villains.
Thank god, at least they are at least following up on what happened 14 episodes ago.
Who thought the garage door with the elevator would make any sense whatsoever for a secret lab? Any person on the planet would find that entrance so bizarre that they would think about it and tell anyone they know about the strange elevator they saw. Production guys got stupid on that one.
Hey Windmark, see what happens when you actually follow up on leads.
So most of the episode they teleport to different spots but when they get a solid lead on the person they are trying to find, they load up the car and cruise to the location.
Nina giving Windy crap reminded me of....
They know Nina was compromised. They know Widmark and his minions headed there, but.... our Fringe Friends immediately headed over to the black lab which just as in the warehouse, the bad guys CONVENIENTLY picked up and left minutes after Nina took a bow.
I really liked season 5 on the first watch but this season is one giant black plot hole sucking the life out of season 5.
September with hair sure looks a lot like Alby Grant.
Anomaly XB-6783746
If Michael is so special, how come he can't talk or do ANYTHING useful. I bet those old folks were actually glad to see him leave.
Better not make Michael angry.
So Olivia can just pick up the phone and call Nina. I give up. The Observers are worse than the Washington Generals.
They are the Hamilton Burgers in the pantheon of villains.
Thank god, at least they are at least following up on what happened 14 episodes ago.
Who thought the garage door with the elevator would make any sense whatsoever for a secret lab? Any person on the planet would find that entrance so bizarre that they would think about it and tell anyone they know about the strange elevator they saw. Production guys got stupid on that one.
Hey Windmark, see what happens when you actually follow up on leads.
So most of the episode they teleport to different spots but when they get a solid lead on the person they are trying to find, they load up the car and cruise to the location.
Nina giving Windy crap reminded me of....
They know Nina was compromised. They know Widmark and his minions headed there, but.... our Fringe Friends immediately headed over to the black lab which just as in the warehouse, the bad guys CONVENIENTLY picked up and left minutes after Nina took a bow.
I really liked season 5 on the first watch but this season is one giant black plot hole sucking the life out of season 5.
September with hair sure looks a lot like Alby Grant.
This post was edited on 2/13/15 at 6:41 am
Posted on 2/12/15 at 9:09 pm to TigerMyth36
Will respond tomorrow all of your posts this week.
Posted on 2/16/15 at 8:23 am to TigerMyth36
OP updated...we've finally reached the final episode. Can't believe we made it all the way through, and it's actually a little bit sad.
Anyway, I didn't get a chance to watch these last two episodes due to MGing this weekend, but I hope to get to them tonight/tomorrow.
I am gonna respond to Myth's catch up posts now though..
Anyway, I didn't get a chance to watch these last two episodes due to MGing this weekend, but I hope to get to them tonight/tomorrow.
I am gonna respond to Myth's catch up posts now though..
Posted on 2/16/15 at 8:43 am to TigerMyth36
The Human Kind
Agreed...I don't really remember being bugged by it the first time, but it really is pretty aggravating this go round. It's like they are completely inept on the most important (and sometimes the most obvious) things.
Yes, because the Obs should have a MUCH better grasp of the tech and be able to wield it far better than Peter. But even if Peter is smarter than your average bear (which he is), let's assume that he can use the tech better than most "regular" Observers...he still wouldn't be able to do better than king dick Windmark. And Windmark has been shown over the course of the series (I think we've seen him several times before) that he's sort of the leader of the pack of Obs and can do probabilities better than the rest. Makes no sense.
You'll see when you respond to my comments that this has been bugging me for weeks now.
Black Blotter
Not to mention that Walter has literally done some of the best and most ingenious work in history of mankind while high as a kite or tripping balls.
I remember being pissed about that the first time around...felt like they kept giving us filler episodes when there were only a few left in the damn series.
Anomaly XB-6783746
What is it that makes him special anyway? He can't talk, and shows only a couple of signs that there is something more to him than simply being a mute kid who doesn't have very much fun. Is it simply because he's an Observer child? What has he shown or done that makes them SO SURE that he's so special? I don't remember much about the episode about the first time we saw him...I know he helped Liv out and that's about it.
Agreed. They could've at least just made it a door that opened and you could walk into it and close it behind you before getting in the elevator. But nah, you striaght up lift the door and there is an elevator there. At some point, any number of random people would've seen it and been a little suspicious.
Yup...see my comments. I think the worst thing about it is that often times they seem to almost literally be TRYING to get caught, yet the Observers (who are smarter, faster, and just better than humans in all facets) are fumbling around town like idiots missing out on just about every chance to catch these easily catchable criminals.
Seriously...see my comments all up and down this page. It's insulting, and borderline infuriating, at times.
I know S5 starts so great and ends with a fantastic finale, but man, as a whole it sure as hell is much weaker than all the other seasons IMO.
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They have super tech and time travel abilities but can't stop a very rag tag group of rebels. On second watch it really does bug me. If they can move through time, then any action by Fringe should be easily stopped by the Future observers coming back in time to thwart the plan.
Agreed...I don't really remember being bugged by it the first time, but it really is pretty aggravating this go round. It's like they are completely inept on the most important (and sometimes the most obvious) things.
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Back to Peter. If he is trying to see the right future path to kill Mr. W, shouldn't Mr. W be able to see the right path the thwart Peter?
Yes, because the Obs should have a MUCH better grasp of the tech and be able to wield it far better than Peter. But even if Peter is smarter than your average bear (which he is), let's assume that he can use the tech better than most "regular" Observers...he still wouldn't be able to do better than king dick Windmark. And Windmark has been shown over the course of the series (I think we've seen him several times before) that he's sort of the leader of the pack of Obs and can do probabilities better than the rest. Makes no sense.
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Also, since they KNOW Peter is tracking them, wouldn't you think Mr. W would have an army of observers trying to track Peter? Hell, Pete is just casually walking about the city.
You'll see when you respond to my comments that this has been bugging me for weeks now.
Black Blotter
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Why does Peter care if he took drugs? Has there been one other time that anyone even paid attention when Walter was stoned out of his mind?
Not to mention that Walter has literally done some of the best and most ingenious work in history of mankind while high as a kite or tripping balls.
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They are called the Observers, yet they can't seem to observe a guy tripping balls even though his face is plastered all over the JumboTrons.
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Too much Walter vs Mean Stinky Evil Walter.
I remember being pissed about that the first time around...felt like they kept giving us filler episodes when there were only a few left in the damn series.
Anomaly XB-6783746
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If Michael is so special, how come he can't talk or do ANYTHING useful. I bet those old folks were actually glad to see him leave.
What is it that makes him special anyway? He can't talk, and shows only a couple of signs that there is something more to him than simply being a mute kid who doesn't have very much fun. Is it simply because he's an Observer child? What has he shown or done that makes them SO SURE that he's so special? I don't remember much about the episode about the first time we saw him...I know he helped Liv out and that's about it.
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Who thought the garage door with the elevator would make any sense whatsoever for a secret lab? Any person on the planet would find that entrance so bizarre that they would think about it and tell anyone they know about the strange elevator they saw. Production guys got stupid on that one.
Agreed. They could've at least just made it a door that opened and you could walk into it and close it behind you before getting in the elevator. But nah, you striaght up lift the door and there is an elevator there. At some point, any number of random people would've seen it and been a little suspicious.
quote:
They know Nina was compromised. They know Widmark and his minions headed there, but.... our Fringe Friends immediately headed over to the black lab which just as in the warehouse, the bad guys CONVENIENTLY picked up and left minutes after Nina took a bow.
I really liked season 5 on the first watch but this season is one giant black plot hole sucking the life out of season 5.
Yup...see my comments. I think the worst thing about it is that often times they seem to almost literally be TRYING to get caught, yet the Observers (who are smarter, faster, and just better than humans in all facets) are fumbling around town like idiots missing out on just about every chance to catch these easily catchable criminals.
Seriously...see my comments all up and down this page. It's insulting, and borderline infuriating, at times.
I know S5 starts so great and ends with a fantastic finale, but man, as a whole it sure as hell is much weaker than all the other seasons IMO.
This post was edited on 2/16/15 at 8:46 am
Posted on 2/16/15 at 10:20 am to catholictigerfan
Respondg to all of catholic's comments on this page.
Five Twenty Ten
Myth said the same thing. The writing seems to be flying off the handle in S5 a bit.
See, the Peter and Olivia thing bothers me this season. I don't mind what they've done with them onscreen, but the whole "they split up" thing that we keep hearing about bothers me a LOT. They were so perfect for each other, yet when S5 starts, we're supposed to buy that one of them up and moved across the country after the invasion and turned their back on each other? It just doesn't make much sense for me.
The Human Kind
I remember that, and it was cool how Peter finally let go of the tech and gave into love and memory of his daughter in favor of destroying his humanity all in the name of revenge.
Black Blotter
I actually wasn't a huge fan of the LSD trip stuff. Felt like filler when they are running out of episodes, and the only real thing it seemed to serve was Walter getting the "black umbrella" password.
ALl I could think about was You Can't Do That on Television...obviously it's MP, but when I was a kid I didn't really know about MP.
Five Twenty Ten
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This Peter going rogue stuff is ok but not great. He is starting to lose emotion even though he is driven by the emotion of revenge.
Myth said the same thing. The writing seems to be flying off the handle in S5 a bit.
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I do like how they are playing on the issues that this is causing between Peter and Olivia. It always seems like Olivia is the sane one in all of this and the one to bring things into perspective. It sucks that peter when behind her back on this, but I guess that happens in many relationships .
I think it was in this episode can't remember but the moment when Olivia finally decides to watch the video Walter gave her was a touching moment. Even to see her reflection in the TV screen was pretty cool. I guess Olivia is trying to hold on to the good memories of her child while Peter can't het his mind off what the observer did to her.
See, the Peter and Olivia thing bothers me this season. I don't mind what they've done with them onscreen, but the whole "they split up" thing that we keep hearing about bothers me a LOT. They were so perfect for each other, yet when S5 starts, we're supposed to buy that one of them up and moved across the country after the invasion and turned their back on each other? It just doesn't make much sense for me.
The Human Kind
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Observers don't love, don't forget about the love you have for me (Olivia) and your daughter. It's great that love moved peter to remove the tech.
I remember that, and it was cool how Peter finally let go of the tech and gave into love and memory of his daughter in favor of destroying his humanity all in the name of revenge.
Black Blotter
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Walter is really really tripping, What is going on? This is crazy, yeah that is just super super crazy. Walter is seeing things, matches magically move through space, he sees what is going on around him like a TV screen, this is the highest I’ve ever seen walter.
I actually wasn't a huge fan of the LSD trip stuff. Felt like filler when they are running out of episodes, and the only real thing it seemed to serve was Walter getting the "black umbrella" password.
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HERE WE GO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I remember the first time I watched this Monty Python tribue, I had to pause it because I was laughing so hard. I think this is the greatest moment of Fringe.
ALl I could think about was You Can't Do That on Television...obviously it's MP, but when I was a kid I didn't really know about MP.
This post was edited on 2/16/15 at 10:25 am
Posted on 2/16/15 at 10:36 am to jamsmiley
Jam's turn..
I'm good with that. frick Charlie.
I don't remember. I know Walter felt responsible for her death, and we had that one episode where he makes good with her mother and all that. Not sure if he was actually there or not.
If you like absurd humor, then you're missing out. They're very funny...some of their old skits and movies and whatnot. Try Holy Grail and see if you like that (I love it). It's fantastic.
How old are you? Just wondering if you're maybe younger and that explains your now knowing of MP.
I wondered that as well...seems like the higher-ups there have an almost direct conflict with the Obs and what they stand for, not to mention all of the inventions/devices that they house there that can be used against the Obs. At the very least the Obs should want those things destroyed/decommissioned.
Haven't we seen that previously on the show? Like there were screams/conversation embedded in the walls and they played them like a record? I don't remember when that was because it all blends together, but I think it was pretty early on (like S1 or S2?).
Well at one point there was something with Nina and Broyles, right? (or maybe that was AltBroyles?) But then again, the way they've fricked with the timelines, there's no telling what is true at this point.
IIRC, doesn't something similar to this end up being the case? Like that's why he's so important...because he IS super powerful or something like that..?
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So we have a mention of Sam Wise but no mention of Charley whatsoever
I'm good with that. frick Charlie.
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Does the show ever specify whether Walter was in the lab with Carla Warren when she tried to burn his book. It would have been easier to take it and hide it or even shred it.
I don't remember. I know Walter felt responsible for her death, and we had that one episode where he makes good with her mother and all that. Not sure if he was actually there or not.
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I don’t know anything about Monty Python
If you like absurd humor, then you're missing out. They're very funny...some of their old skits and movies and whatnot. Try Holy Grail and see if you like that (I love it). It's fantastic.
How old are you? Just wondering if you're maybe younger and that explains your now knowing of MP.
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Why would the observers allow the Ministry of science to exist. It poses a threat to them.
I wondered that as well...seems like the higher-ups there have an almost direct conflict with the Obs and what they stand for, not to mention all of the inventions/devices that they house there that can be used against the Obs. At the very least the Obs should want those things destroyed/decommissioned.
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The technology used be the observers to trace what Nina said was cool.
Haven't we seen that previously on the show? Like there were screams/conversation embedded in the walls and they played them like a record? I don't remember when that was because it all blends together, but I think it was pretty early on (like S1 or S2?).
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I sometimes think that there was something deeper between Walter and Nina, he definitely was a part of the free love era
Well at one point there was something with Nina and Broyles, right? (or maybe that was AltBroyles?) But then again, the way they've fricked with the timelines, there's no telling what is true at this point.
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I wonder what fundamentally changed in Michael that allowed him to exist without tech. Do you think the observers get rid of those with anomalies because they fear they may have more power?
IIRC, doesn't something similar to this end up being the case? Like that's why he's so important...because he IS super powerful or something like that..?
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