re: New Ant Man trailer

I lol'd several times, especially at the end.


That trailer actually might have just sold me on this movie. I wasn't going to go see it before now, but I'll end up checking it out now

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But the biggest loss is Janet van Dyne. Wasp is awesome, and a longtime fan favorite. Hope is her daughter, and she'll probably get to be the superhero in this incarnation, but... BOOOO!!! Janet is really cool. And it's a shame that by getting rid of Pym, we have to get rid of his wife that he beat up.

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Who said we got rid of Pym or Janet? How do you know she wasn't the first Wasp who died during a mission causing Hank to retire in shame?

Why do you think Hayley Atwell (Peggy Carter) and Trevor Slattery (Howard Stark) make appearances in this film?

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And then Cap whipped his arse then stole his woman

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Why yes. Yes he did.

I had very little desire to see this, but that's a damn good trailer. And I know nothing about Ant Man (had to ask about his powers in a thread a while back) or anything in that universe, but if they take tie direction of more of a comedy than "superhero flick," then I could be down to see this.

Plus, there's Rudd and I don't know many who don't love that dude.

I may actually want to catch this in theaters.

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Iron Man wasn't IRON MAN until RDJ played him.

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When I said "he's not iron man" i meant as far as capabilities.

basically i was saying, he shrinks but keeps regular strength and can control ants

i wasnt claiming that iron man was THE marvel character

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ron Man wasn't IRON MAN until RDJ played him.

People seem to forget that he was considered a second tier Marvel character at best before the MCU started.

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Yes and no. He wasn't nearly as popular of a character, as the fundamental basis for Tony Stark was to try and make readers root for the most unlikeable guy they could think up. Iron Man was never Captain America, but he is an original Avenger, has had a solo book in continuous publication since 1968, and was such a central figure in the Marvel mythos that he was one of the "Illuminati" that essentially controls all superheroes in the Marvel universe. That book came out in 2006, and the film came out in 2008.

So, he has seen a surge in popularity, but he's always been a key cog in the Marvel universe. It's just that his popularity stopped at the comic book store's door, and has since exploded with the general public.

Seeing as how you registered today, and this is your first post, im going to assume that you are a strong Hank Pym advocate

welcome

I often like the smaller, street level superheroes (as opposed to cosmic level characters who can destroy planets) and I think Pym is a mostly good, but kind of weak guy which makes him an interesting character. I had significant doubts about this project when it was announced, but I am now planning on seeing this unless the reviews come back horrible.

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First off, Hank Pym is a thoroughly despicable guy who Marvel put on a shelf for nearly two decades, and tried to pretend didn't exist.

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Not really, the wife beating panel(which is more common than Marvel leads you to believe now) was part of Pym under mental duress where he attacked the whole team...but since then Marvel has played up the idea that Pym is a jerk.Then the Ultimate line came out, which took tiny parts of the 616 and amped them up (like for example Steve Rogers being sort of racist) He wasn't on the shelf, he was merely shifted off up tights duty.

Pym is an awesome character who struggled with not being good enough in the original Avengers line-up, something Clint Barton (ironically) goes through with MCU lineup. Goliath/Giant Man was the shitty character,it's redundant of Hulk. There is a reason they aren't making a Giant Man movie.

I do agree about Wasp(even though she's kind of slutty), but Marvel isn't afraid of doing MCU stories set in the past, so "hope" is not lost.

Lang is okay, redemptive hero is a fine story. Eric O'Grady would ve been just as fine.

Scott was great in the recent Future Foundation (extension of the F4).

Definitely Jennifer Walters as well. She-Hulk is Marvel's second best title recently, and sadly cancelled (which, incidentally, also has Patsy Walker in a supporting role). I was hoping for me superhero lawyerin'. But all of those characters, and Spider-Woman, were created in the mid-70s while Wasp was one of the original Avengers. As in, first issue.

And while Marvel was trying to figure out what to do with Spider-Woman, who didn't really emerge as a major character until recently (much like Captain Marvel), Wasp was the chairperson of the Avengers by the early 80s, a position she held for almost the entire 80s, before leading the West Coast version. That's right, Janet van Dyne was put in a leadership position over Captain friggin' America (and Iron Man).

Wasp has been the biggest mover in the Marvel universe for decades among the female characters. Really, only She-Hulk has a case to be on her level historically speaking, and Janet had nearly a full decade's head start.

In recent years, her profile has shrank (no pun intended... no really, I did that by accident and now I don't want to delete it), which has made space for other female characters in the Avengers like, of course, Carol Danvers. Who kicks major booty. But Wasp was the trailblazer.