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re: Man of Steel 59% on RT
Posted on 6/16/13 at 11:14 am to Burt Reynolds
Posted on 6/16/13 at 11:14 am to Burt Reynolds
Feels like I'm in Middle-earth with all of the trolls in here.
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Posted on 6/16/13 at 11:41 am to League Champs
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That's just writers covering their arse. Notice the use of focus and train in the same statement?
Not really.
With the high amount of flashback sequences it's easy to get chronology confused.
You do realize that he first learned to fly maybe 6 hours before Zod came to town?
That he spent most of his life suppressing his abilities and hiding them....not honing them.
What lifetime of experience advantage are you referring to?
Posted on 6/16/13 at 11:54 am to Volvagia
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You do realize that he first learned to fly maybe 6 hours before Zod came to town?
In this version, which is counter to everything we know about Superman.
Which is why I agreed with critics, too much carnage, too little story development
Posted on 6/16/13 at 11:56 am to League Champs
So you are pointing out a "plothole" because a reboot is inconsistent with established works?
This post was edited on 6/16/13 at 11:56 am
Posted on 6/16/13 at 11:59 am to Volvagia
Pretty sure he learned to fly a little more than 6 hours before Zod arrived. He obviously knew he could traverse great distance quickly before that, he just never said frick it and did it for any reason other than just to do it.
Posted on 6/16/13 at 12:04 pm to DURANTULA
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Feels like I'm in Middle-earth with all of the trolls in here.
Bunch of dick splashes in this thread
Posted on 6/16/13 at 12:06 pm to DURANTULA
The basis for the time stamp is that he is telling his mother about his biological parents when Zod comes.
Might not be hours, but we are talking at most weeks though.
Again, not like he had a lifetime of experience pressing his limits.
Might not be hours, but we are talking at most weeks though.
Again, not like he had a lifetime of experience pressing his limits.
Posted on 6/16/13 at 12:07 pm to League Champs
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....where did you train? On a farm?
How does Zod know what a farm is? Krypton looked like a giant rock.
Posted on 6/16/13 at 12:09 pm to DURANTULA
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He obviously knew he could traverse great distance quickly before that, he just never said frick it and did it for any reason other than just to do it
Yes, obviously that's it.
He also just felt like swimming to shore after the oil rig blew. Gave him time to think.
Also considered hitchhiking to be a character building experience.
Posted on 6/16/13 at 12:10 pm to Suck Out West
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How does Zod know what a farm is? Krypton looked like a giant rock.
They had to eat something....
Maybe their capital was in an area analogous geologically to Arizona.
Posted on 6/16/13 at 12:14 pm to Suck Out West
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How does Zod know what a farm is? Krypton looked like a giant rock.
1) it probably looked like that because it was on the edge of destruction
2) They obviously knew a lot about other planets, and Earth. Even if their civilization had evolved past the need to farm, they would still know what the term meant
Posted on 6/16/13 at 12:24 pm to Suck Out West
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How does Zod know what a farm is? Krypton looked like a giant rock.
Really, an alien race that has colonized and prospered for 18,000 years wouldn't know what a farm is? Really??
Posted on 6/16/13 at 2:40 pm to BigAppleTiger
But a farm like one in rural Kansas? And I just always though Krypton was baren. Even in the movie it was said that its a much more harsh environment but whatever.
Posted on 6/16/13 at 2:44 pm to Suck Out West
I think this movie is a great example of critics missing the point. They wanted the same feel that Donner gave. Synder and Nolan were never going to give them that.
I like a more brooding Superman. He can be a symbol of hope and still have an edge. This also sets the stage for a more intelligent Superman than previously. Hopefully, in the JL movie he is not dumbed down to make Batman relevant.
I like a more brooding Superman. He can be a symbol of hope and still have an edge. This also sets the stage for a more intelligent Superman than previously. Hopefully, in the JL movie he is not dumbed down to make Batman relevant.
Posted on 6/16/13 at 3:16 pm to Rittdog
I agree with 59% on RT. I liked the back story about Krypton, its people, and his suit. But wasn't sure about him being a hermit and then the big battle at the end. Was a bit over the top.
Posted on 6/16/13 at 3:27 pm to Rza32
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. But wasn't sure about him being a hermit and then the big battle at the end. Was a bit over the top.
Anytime Supes is in the Fortress of Solitude, it usually a good thing for the character. I have a feeling we are going to see more elements of stories like All-Star Superman in the future of the franchise.
Posted on 6/16/13 at 4:02 pm to RonBurgundy
I want to see him help random people and in other countries. I also didnt like that jor el could "talk" to people , I liked the hologram version bettet
Posted on 6/16/13 at 4:57 pm to Volvagia
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So you are pointing out a "plothole" because a reboot is inconsistent with established works?
That and reality
There is no way a teenager is going to make it out of his teen years without testing his limits. That's the whole reason for Jonathan Kents role; tone down Supe so the world wont send him packing
You cannot possibly believe that he waited til 33 to attempt flight? That's why the rating is so low. Too many plot holes, in an attempt to make a darker Superman. It doesn't work with Superman. Hes about the best of mankind, unlike Bruce Wayne or Tony Stark
Posted on 6/16/13 at 5:18 pm to League Champs
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You cannot possibly believe that he waited til 33 to attempt flight? That's why the rating is so low. Too many plot holes, in an attempt to make a darker Superman. It doesn't work with Superman. Hes about the best of mankind, unlike Bruce Wayne or Tony Stark
Actually, Bruce Wayne is about being the best of mankind, the peak human.The motivation of that was the death of his parents, but even so, the forever loved Nolan trilogy is about a symbol of hope.
To be fair, isn't that more of a testament to what mankind is today? We are darker(figuratively) as a society than ever before, so shouldn't the "best/brightest" be darker. Also, Kal-El is always mirroring human behavior so it makes sense.
This film will be more appreciated going forward, but the same people who moan about the Big Blue BoyScout seem to be the same people saying he isn't Donnerish enough.
Give me a new interpretation of the character anyday of the week,if they are going reboot a comic franchise.
Posted on 6/19/13 at 1:11 pm to RonBurgundy
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