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re: ‘Lightyear’ Same Sex Kiss Restored
Posted on 3/20/22 at 3:34 am to skrayper
Posted on 3/20/22 at 3:34 am to skrayper
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This implies a purpose to our evolution, a direction. Sorry, but that's not what evolution is. There is no "grand design" behind it. You weren't "created" to do anything specific. Our ancestors got a lucky batch of random mutations that were beneficial, while a frick ton of other mutations died off. Our main advantage is that our distant ancestors were small enough to survive Cretaceous-Tertiary extinction event. That's why mammals were so prevalent now, and it had not a damned thing to do with a goal to "exist as the highest form of creation."
You won't be able to point to any evidence that supports this theory. What you have stated here is closer to a belief system than anything resembling science.
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Posted on 3/20/22 at 7:20 am to imjustafatkid
Posted on 3/20/22 at 10:49 am to td01241
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It’s a cartoon designed for elementary age children. Why does it need any kissing at all gay or straight? The answer is it doesn’t. Save that shite for at least young adult material. The only reason it’s there is a further attempt to corrupt and normalize it among children and to serve as another link in the ever expanding wall that serves to sever the link between parent and child and turning children into wards of the state, just like China did under Mao and the red guard. This is why I oppose it. At this point all the activist know this is why we oppose it but they can’t acknowledge it because not acknowledging any criticism is literally built into their neo Marxist theology. That’s why we get people like you saying “wow you hate gay people” instead of admitting the truth behind a much more nuanced and reason based explanation for its opposition.
Hit the nail on the head
Posted on 3/20/22 at 11:25 am to td01241
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It’s a cartoon designed for elementary age children. Why does it need any kissing at all gay or straight? The answer is it doesn’t. Save that shite for at least young adult material.
Cinderella and Prince Charming
Unconscious Snow White and the Prince
Belle and the Beast
Aladdin and Jasmine
The Princess that kissed that frog (which is clearly Disney attempting to normalize beastiality)
What’s different about these kisses and the one in ‘Lightyear’?
This post was edited on 3/20/22 at 11:39 am
Posted on 3/20/22 at 12:29 pm to td01241
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It’s a cartoon designed for elementary age children. Why does it need any kissing at all gay or straight? The answer is it doesn’t. Save that shite for at least young adult material. The only reason it’s there is a further attempt to corrupt and normalize it among children and to serve as another link in the ever expanding wall that serves to sever the link between parent and child and turning children into wards of the state, just like China did under Mao and the red guard. This is why I oppose it. At this point all the activist know this is why we oppose it but they can’t acknowledge it because not acknowledging any criticism is literally built into their neo Marxist theology. That’s why we get people like you saying “wow you hate gay people” instead of admitting the truth behind a much more nuanced and reason based explanation for its opposition.
This holds more weight if you also actively complained about the heterosexual kissing that was already present in the same movie series.
Posted on 3/20/22 at 12:31 pm to Esquire
Wow. Whoever made that meme is really bad at memes.
Posted on 3/20/22 at 12:32 pm to TotesMcGotes
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What’s different about these kisses and the one in ‘Lightyear’?
Affectionate kissing is acceptable.
Homosexuality isn't.
This post was edited on 3/20/22 at 12:35 pm
Posted on 3/20/22 at 12:41 pm to imjustafatkid
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Affectionate kissing is acceptable.
Homosexuality isn't.
So gay people can't be affectionate? Is that your argument?
Posted on 3/20/22 at 12:42 pm to imjustafatkid
Why did you edit it from “straight people kissing is acceptable”?
Posted on 3/20/22 at 12:45 pm to imjustafatkid
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You won't be able to point to any evidence that supports this theory. What you have stated here is closer to a belief system than anything resembling science.
There's a frickton of evidence that supports the concept that evolution is random and more a response to global changes than some guided hand. You have wisdom teeth, an appendix and tonsils - a lot of useless material in you for something that was "designed". The simple fact of the matter is that if a big rock doesn't hit the planet 65 million years ago, you and I don't exist. Nothing special about us, really.
I am not going to "disprove" the existence of a higher power any more than you can "disprove" that aliens didn't create the human race as a practical joke. We should all accept our place as the third most intelligent creatures on this planet and be glad for it.
So long, and thanks for all the fish.
Posted on 3/20/22 at 12:48 pm to Fleur De Lethal
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What you don't get is that is should be normalized. It's not a choice. They're born that way.
I had a gay friend in high school and he would actively joke around with boys he thought were cute and say “ooh I’m gonna convert you”. Meaning he was going to get them to come around to being gay. Maybe it was just a joke. But one guy told me that he was starting to feel like he was actually trying to pressure him and was getting pissed.
So I can’t say how a gay person feels or thinks, but I do think to some extent it is a choice. This guy was trying to get someone to change their sexual orientation. To me that indicates some level of understanding that it is a choice.
Also, girls in middle school use to pressure me into saying that I was gay. They would say things like “oh I could definitely see you as my flamboyant gay friend!”.. I guess because I was a friendly, cheerful person. I also sang in choir instead of playing sports at the time. I don’t know why. But if I wasn’t deeply aware of my attraction to girls and inculcated that gay behavior is not good, then who knows if I would have been swayed one way or the other.
Outside/cultural influences absolutely influence the way someone views themself and how they choose to respond to life’s questions.
I know it’s all anecdotes, but they are real experiences from my youth. Maybe that’s why I wouldn’t want my kids getting influenced or confused by this kind of stuff at such a young age.
This post was edited on 3/20/22 at 12:51 pm
Posted on 3/20/22 at 12:55 pm to SaintTiger80
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I had a gay friend in high school and he would actively joke around with boys he thought were cute and say “ooh I’m gonna convert you”. Meaning he was going to get them to come around to being gay. Maybe it was just a joke. But one guy told me that he was starting to feel like he was actually trying to pressure him and was getting pissed.
So I can’t say how a gay person feels or thinks, but I do think to some extent it is a choice. This guy was trying to get someone to change their sexual orientation. To me that indicates some level of understanding that it is a choice.
Also, girls in middle school use to pressure me into saying that I was gay. They would say things like “oh I could definitely see you as my flamboyant gay friend!”.. I guess because I was a friendly, cheerful person. I also sang in choir instead of playing sports at the time. I don’t know why. But if I wasn’t deeply aware of my attraction to girls and inculcated that gay behavior is not good, then who knows if I would have been swayed one way or the other.
Outside/cultural influences absolutely influence the way someone views themself and how they choose to respond to life’s questions.
I know it’s all anecdotes, but they are real experiences from my youth. Maybe that’s why I wouldn’t want my kids getting influenced or confused by this kind of stuff at such a young age.
I get what you're saying, and while yes that's anecdotal I can also understand where you're coming from. You don't want kids worrying about that stuff, they're just kids.
That being said, we do the same thing with religion and get kids started at a VERY early age and telling them to never question what we tell them in church/mosque/synagogue. Why are some forms of indoctrination okay, and others not?
We've, obviously, gone WAY off the reservation here, but I am legitimately curious - why is it okay to teach kids to never question the church, or flat out tell them to believe X or Y, then worry about them being exposed to Z? You may feel homosexuality is abnormal (not saying you do or do not, just "may"), but do you give your kids to make that assessment as analytically as possible? Or do you take them to church and have someone scream at them that homosexuality is a sin because Paul says so?
Posted on 3/20/22 at 2:21 pm to skrayper
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So gay people can't be affectionate? Is that your argument?
No. There would be no way to come to this conclusion from what you quoted.
Posted on 3/20/22 at 2:22 pm to skrayper
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There's a frickton of evidence that supports the concept that evolution is random and more a response to global changes than some guided hand.
There really isn't.
Posted on 3/20/22 at 2:24 pm to TotesMcGotes
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Why did you edit it from “straight people kissing is acceptable”?
Because the identifier of "straight" is meaningless in the context of my post. It's redundant. There is no such thing as gay "or" straight, and I'm working to stop talking in such terms. There is only the affection allowed by and given to us by our Creator, and perversions of that gift.
ETA: Also, one can be affectionate without it being related to sexual interactions, so using that term even in the common sense would not have conveyed my meaning.
This post was edited on 3/20/22 at 2:26 pm
Posted on 3/20/22 at 2:45 pm to imjustafatkid
Oh you’re one of those weirdos.
Posted on 3/20/22 at 3:00 pm to TotesMcGotes
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Oh you’re one of those weirdos.
If you believe same sex affections are normal, then I'm totally okay with you finding me weird. I'm supposed to be weird to people like you.
ETA: Have an upvote.
This post was edited on 3/20/22 at 3:01 pm
Posted on 3/20/22 at 3:36 pm to imjustafatkid
No, I was referring to the weirdos who use the Bible as some perverse justification for treating people poorly.
Posted on 3/20/22 at 4:02 pm to Fleur De Lethal
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It's crazy how many homophobes there are in this place.
I don't know one single human being who has an irrational fear of gays or trannies and you probably don't either.
Posted on 3/20/22 at 4:04 pm to imjustafatkid
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There really isn't.
There really is.
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