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re: James Bond Author Says Idris Elba is 'Too Street' to Play James Bond

Posted on 9/1/15 at 10:07 pm to
Posted by Wild Thang
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Posted on 9/1/15 at 10:07 pm to
I love Elba, but Bond is not black.

#whitebondmatters
Posted by wildtigercat93
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Posted on 9/1/15 at 10:12 pm to
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If you think that the Hollywood insiders pushing the idea have the same POV, I think you're being naive.


Does one persons agenda automatically disqualify it from being a good idea? There's plenty of people that are just a fan of Idris and would like to see him in that role. Plenty of "Hollywood insiders" as well I'm sure
Posted by Mo Jeaux
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Posted on 9/1/15 at 10:14 pm to
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Does one persons agenda automatically disqualify it from being a good idea?


No, not at all.

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There's plenty of people that are just a fan of Idris and would like to see him in that role. Plenty of "Hollywood insiders" as well I'm sure


I'm sure, too.
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Posted on 9/1/15 at 10:16 pm to
So I don't see the problem
Posted by wildtigercat93
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Posted on 9/1/15 at 10:17 pm to
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It does when the creator of the character sees him as white.


GRRM saw Daario as a green and orange mother fricker. Please list all of the 100 percent true to the book movies they have made in the past 50 years.
Posted by Henry Jones Jr
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Posted on 9/1/15 at 10:18 pm to
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GRRM saw Daario as a green and orange mother fricker.

Daario wasn't the only central character in a series.
Posted by wildtigercat93
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Posted on 9/1/15 at 10:19 pm to
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Daario wasn't the only central character in a series.


If he was, would you be objecting to him being a pasty white guy in the show?
Posted by Henry Jones Jr
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Posted on 9/1/15 at 10:20 pm to
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If he was, would you be objecting to him being a pasty white guy in the show?
Yes. I still don't like Craig being cast because he is blonde.
Posted by Mo Jeaux
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Posted on 9/1/15 at 10:21 pm to
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So I don't see the problem


I'm just being a little LNCHBOX in this thread.
Posted by wildtigercat93
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Posted on 9/1/15 at 10:21 pm to
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Yes. I still don't like Craig being cast because he is blonde.


Because they were pandering to blonde people?
Posted by Mo Jeaux
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Posted on 9/1/15 at 10:23 pm to
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Yes. I still don't like Craig being cast because he is blonde.


I'm with you on this, even though I've enjoyed his movies quite a bit.
Posted by Henry Jones Jr
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Posted on 9/1/15 at 10:23 pm to
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Because they were pandering to blonde people?

Because the character isn't blonde haired.
Posted by biglego
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Posted on 9/1/15 at 10:29 pm to
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Btw none of these people are starting the discussion with "HEY WHY DONT WE MAKE BOND A BLACK GUY?!"

It starts off with "hey that idris guy is one of my favorite actors. He'd fit perfectly as Bond."

And then the incoming rage about imaginary pandering and it becomes an argument about shaft somehow

I like Elba fine. But do you honestly think his name keeps coming up simply bc he's a good actor? There are plenty good actors who could do the role better, just like that guy in the OP stated. He's a big guy, not young, and there's nothing about him that screams "Bond" or "spy". You can be naive, that's fine. I'm of the opinion there's a push for a black Bond, and Elba is that chosen one. And I believe if Elba was white, his name wouldn't pop up.

Before you get crazy on me, I'll go ahead and reiterate that I'm not even a big Bond fan, I like Elba, and I'd see the movie regardless just bc I like seeing movies.
Posted by wildtigercat93
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Posted on 9/1/15 at 10:40 pm to
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like Elba fine. But do you honestly think his name keeps coming up simply bc he's a good actor?


Yes. Name the other black actors they are pushing for the role and I'll believe it's more of an agenda over a guy that's just a good fit. Until then, I'm not the one claiming conspiracy over fans wanting him to be bond
This post was edited on 9/1/15 at 10:42 pm
Posted by Overbrook
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Posted on 9/1/15 at 10:46 pm to
So is Craig leaving the role?

Craig is a great Bond.
But it's about the writing and stories. Casino Royale and Skyfall were great. But Quantam of Solace was the worst Bond movie I ever saw, despite the excellent Bond.
The writing in most of the Brosnan's movies was poor.
This post was edited on 9/1/15 at 10:56 pm
Posted by wildtigercat93
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Posted on 9/1/15 at 10:47 pm to
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Because the character isn't blonde haired.


Do you care about his accent as much as his hair?
Posted by montanagator
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Posted on 9/1/15 at 10:50 pm to
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There is no better human being to play Bond than Elba, of any color.

He has suave in spades. He also is no more edgy or rough than Craig.


This is actually a really good point, isn't Daniel Craig pretty rough and street, I mean he was definitely a move away from the refined polished Burton, Brosnan- Bonds and back to a more Connery level brawler.
Posted by biglego
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Posted on 9/1/15 at 10:52 pm to
I don't think they're pushing any other black actors for the role. He's the one that's been chosen.
Posted by wildtigercat93
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Posted on 9/1/15 at 10:53 pm to
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I don't think they're pushing any other black actors for the role. He's the one that's been chosen.


did they sacrifice a lamb in his honor as well?

So it's not a black thing, it's an Idris thing? dont see how that's pandering
This post was edited on 9/1/15 at 10:54 pm
Posted by biglego
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Posted on 9/1/15 at 11:11 pm to

I think there's a push for a black Bond, and for Elba to be that black Bond bc he's a good actor who'd do the accent. that's all.
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