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Posted on 9/1/15 at 1:16 pm to Draconian Sanctions
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Bond is Scottish in the source material. You know how many Scotsmen have played James Bond? 1. They've even had actors who weren't even Brits at all playing 007. Why is that not a problem but a black guy is?
You're right. Having a Welshman play bond is the same thing as having a Sierra Leonian play Bond.
Posted on 9/1/15 at 1:18 pm to StrongBackWeakMind
Yea but people who have their own prejudices or biases don't want to just come out and say that a black Bond would make them uncomfortable. They'd rather cling to bullshite reasons
Posted on 9/1/15 at 1:21 pm to elprez00
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He's not black in the source material.
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James Bond
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the source material.
Name the last Bond Movie that was completely faithful to the source material.
Posted on 9/1/15 at 1:22 pm to Pilot Tiger
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Posted on 9/1/15 at 1:23 pm to StrongBackWeakMind
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Sam L is way too dark for Nick Fury.
Ultimate Marvel Nick Fury was drawn to look like Sam Jackson well before he was ever cast as NF.
Posted on 9/1/15 at 1:25 pm to Dr RC
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Posted on 9/1/15 at 1:25 pm to Pilot Tiger
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Yea but people who have their own prejudices or biases don't want to just come out and say that a black Bond would make them uncomfortable. They'd rather cling to bullshite reasons
I'm not prejudiced or biased in any way. But if you are going to take a traditionally white character and have him portrayed by a black guy, then I'd like to know the reason? What does it add to the character? As I said before, in Bonds particular case you just soft rebooted the series three movies prior with Daniel Craig. You've got it set up with a new M, and Bond about to encounter his old nemesis Spectre. So what purpose does it serve to suddenly switch Bonds race, 50 years into the series?
FWIW, I thought casting a black guy as Johnny Storm was stupid, and I think changing the Ghostbusters to all female is stupid and pandering as well.
Posted on 9/1/15 at 1:27 pm to Green Chili Tiger
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Name the last Bond Movie that was completely faithful to the source material.
Casino Royale?
But to be fair, it was probably Live and Let Die before that, but that was a pretty loose adaptation. Truthfully, once you got out of the Connery movies they bore very little resemblance to the original stories.
Posted on 9/1/15 at 1:28 pm to elprez00
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But if you are going to take a traditionally white character and have him portrayed by a black guy, then I'd like to know the reason
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I thought casting a black guy as Johnny Storm was stupid
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changing the Ghostbusters to all female is stupid and pandering as well
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I'm not prejudiced or biased in any way
Posted on 9/1/15 at 1:29 pm to elprez00
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While were at it, lets make him American too. Work for the CIA instead.
They've had an Irishman play him.
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Its shoehorning someone into a role for no reason other than pandering.
Have you watched Elba?
Posted on 9/1/15 at 1:30 pm to Draconian Sanctions
So what's the reason for wanting a black guy to play Bond (I don't really care either way)? I just find it funny that the people who initiate a decision that is based solely on race start casting aspersions on others for making decisions based on race.
Posted on 9/1/15 at 1:31 pm to Mo Jeaux
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So what's the reason for wanting a black guy to play Bond
Elba is the best choice available for the role.
Posted on 9/1/15 at 1:31 pm to Mo Jeaux
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So what's the reason for wanting a black guy to play Bond (I don't really care either way)
They don't. They want Elba to play Bond. There is a difference.
Posted on 9/1/15 at 1:32 pm to TN Bhoy
I wonder how many of these posters freaked out when Khan was played by Benedict Cumberbatch?
Posted on 9/1/15 at 1:32 pm to Mo Jeaux
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Posted on 9/1/15 at 1:34 pm to Draconian Sanctions
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Elba is the best choice available for the role.
Oh, a completely verifiable data point. Carry on then.
Posted on 9/1/15 at 1:34 pm to elprez00
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But if you are going to take a traditionally white character and have him portrayed by a black guy, then I'd like to know the reason? What does it add to the character? As I said before, in Bonds particular case you just soft rebooted the series three movies prior with Daniel Craig. You've got it set up with a new M, and Bond about to encounter his old nemesis Spectre. So what purpose does it serve to suddenly switch Bonds race, 50 years into the series?
Because Daniel Craig did not sign a contract for infinite Bond films.
If you're going to have to recast Bond either way, why not go with the best actor you can find that is capable of bringing Bond to life? When you list off traits of what you think "defines" Bond, myself (and many others) feel that Elba allows you to check every box except race.
It's already been proven that physical resemblance to the Bond from the books is really, really, really far down on the list when it comes to casting Bond, so it's really a non-issue for a lot of Bond fans.
Posted on 9/1/15 at 1:35 pm to TN Bhoy
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They don't. They want Elba to play Bond. There is a difference.
Yes, they're all completely color blind. I'm sure. 
Posted on 9/1/15 at 1:35 pm to Draconian Sanctions
quote:WEll actually, there is..... the character is white.
There is absolutely no reason at all Bond can't be black.
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