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re: Is the the worst era for movies in your lifetime?
Posted on 2/16/17 at 8:19 am to Tarik One
Posted on 2/16/17 at 8:19 am to Tarik One
I think it's because Hollywood is running out of original ideas on top of trying to keep up with futuristic theatrics. I don't even know what the movie is called, but I saw the trailer for the new ScarJo moving coming out and just sat there asking myself "dafuq am I watching"?!
There are a lot of pop corn flick/entertaining movies, but I wish movies were more relatable to the viewer like they used to be. I've always thought if your audience can related to the story then its a solid flick. Example: Dazed and Confused. Hell, I was only 4 when that movie came out and I relate to it more than movies now. The mindset of those characters will always stand the test of time. No matter what year it is when high school aged kids watch it, they will relate to the message it sends. MM's line of "I get older and they stay the same age" is a perfect representation of that. The issues kids deal with at that age will always stay the same, no matter where we are time/technology wise.
A few of the movies to relate to for my lifetime:
-Dazed and Confused
-American Pie (1 & 2)
-Breakfast Club
-Varsity Blues
-Sandlot (I'm a baseball guy so that's why I list it ha)
-She's All That
-Cant Hardly Wait
honorable mention for newer generation: Superbad
There are a lot of pop corn flick/entertaining movies, but I wish movies were more relatable to the viewer like they used to be. I've always thought if your audience can related to the story then its a solid flick. Example: Dazed and Confused. Hell, I was only 4 when that movie came out and I relate to it more than movies now. The mindset of those characters will always stand the test of time. No matter what year it is when high school aged kids watch it, they will relate to the message it sends. MM's line of "I get older and they stay the same age" is a perfect representation of that. The issues kids deal with at that age will always stay the same, no matter where we are time/technology wise.
A few of the movies to relate to for my lifetime:
-Dazed and Confused
-American Pie (1 & 2)
-Breakfast Club
-Varsity Blues
-Sandlot (I'm a baseball guy so that's why I list it ha)
-She's All That
-Cant Hardly Wait
honorable mention for newer generation: Superbad
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Posted on 2/16/17 at 9:05 am to Tarik One
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In recent years, I've never been so unenthused about upcoming movies in my life.
please god no more superhero movies
Posted on 2/16/17 at 9:36 am to Snoopy04
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I saw the trailer for the new ScarJo moving coming out and just sat there asking myself "dafuq am I watching"?!
Your probably referring to "Ghost in a Shell" which I'm pretty excited about. Finally, Hollywood is running out of comic books for movie ideas and are going to try and recreate classic japanamation as live action. Do Akira next!!!!!
Posted on 2/16/17 at 9:41 am to cgrand
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please god no more superhero movies
They make big bucks, why would the studios stop now?
Look, I get what you're saying, I know a lot of people that feel the same way. But the truth is we only get a few comic book films every year. Aside from last year, we've had between 3-4 comic films a year. Is that really that bad?
Posted on 2/16/17 at 9:55 am to Pectus
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And Spiderman...kicking off comic book buzz and item for the next 20 years.
i think you mean x-men. spiderman got a shot because x-men (hugh jackman) put out a decent product.
Posted on 2/16/17 at 10:00 am to RLDSC FAN
There's plenty of original ideas. You just don't go to see them, so Hollywood doesn't make them, and its left to independent studios to try and distribute them. Shocking to know, but Hollywood will put out whatever the public demands. They are interested in making money. So the problem isn't Hollywood, its audiences for continually going to see retreads and formula films.
Last year, the following original films came out in wide release: Arrival, La La Land, Split, Hacksaw Ridge, Lion, Passengers, Manchester by the Sea, Moonlight, Hidden Figures, Nocturnal Animals, A Cure for Wellness, Moana, The Edge of 17, The Founder, The Girl on the Train, Silence, the Accountant, Nice guys, Hell or High Water, etc. And that's not even getting into limited release films like Green Room (or hell, the terrific year in horror I keep raving about).
On the other hand, every single film in the top 10 grossing films of the year was either based on an existing property or an animated feature. The highest grossing film that was not either based on existing IP or an animated film was Hidden Figures, which ranked 19th at $133 million. Just one spot ahead of the Ghostbusters remake.
Maybe, just maybe, the problem isn't a lack of original films. It's that audiences don't WATCH original films.
Last year, the following original films came out in wide release: Arrival, La La Land, Split, Hacksaw Ridge, Lion, Passengers, Manchester by the Sea, Moonlight, Hidden Figures, Nocturnal Animals, A Cure for Wellness, Moana, The Edge of 17, The Founder, The Girl on the Train, Silence, the Accountant, Nice guys, Hell or High Water, etc. And that's not even getting into limited release films like Green Room (or hell, the terrific year in horror I keep raving about).
On the other hand, every single film in the top 10 grossing films of the year was either based on an existing property or an animated feature. The highest grossing film that was not either based on existing IP or an animated film was Hidden Figures, which ranked 19th at $133 million. Just one spot ahead of the Ghostbusters remake.
Maybe, just maybe, the problem isn't a lack of original films. It's that audiences don't WATCH original films.
Posted on 2/16/17 at 10:00 am to OMLandshark
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This is a pretty bad stretch, although the early aughts were bad as well. If La La Land is the best this year, that's fricking sad.
Agree with this. La La Land is a decent movie. I like Gosling and Emma Stone as characters in the production and as actors in general. But compared to classical musicals like Singing In The Rain, La La Land is pretty much amateur hour. I love this scene with Fred Astaire and Ginger Rogers in Pick Yourself Up: Pick Yourself Up
Posted on 2/16/17 at 10:10 am to Breesus
Mad Max
Ex Machina
Whiplash
Birdman
Interstellar
Gravity
Deadpool
Big Short
LaLa Land
Revenant
Dallas Buyers Club
Django
Nightcrawler
Wolf of Wallstreet
Hell or High Water
The Martian
Life of Pi
10 Cloverfielf Lane
Sicario
Bridge of Spies
Spotlight
Fences
Loved all of these in the last couple of years. I don't think its been that bad.
ETA:
Ex Machina and Whiplash might both be in my top 10 favorite movies of all time list, so I might be biased by the top heaviness of my list.
Ex Machina
Whiplash
Birdman
Interstellar
Gravity
Deadpool
Big Short
LaLa Land
Revenant
Dallas Buyers Club
Django
Nightcrawler
Wolf of Wallstreet
Hell or High Water
The Martian
Life of Pi
10 Cloverfielf Lane
Sicario
Bridge of Spies
Spotlight
Fences
Loved all of these in the last couple of years. I don't think its been that bad.
ETA:
Ex Machina and Whiplash might both be in my top 10 favorite movies of all time list, so I might be biased by the top heaviness of my list.
This post was edited on 2/16/17 at 10:13 am
Posted on 2/16/17 at 10:12 am to mizzoubuckeyeiowa
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Yeah, you just listed a whole lot of bad.
If you didn't find enjoyment in any of those listed then I'm not sure you enjoy watching movies.
Posted on 2/16/17 at 10:22 am to dallastiger55
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2. I read last year that movies are shifting to a younger audience now because thats where the money is. Said the big blockbusters are either animated or comic book movies. Thats why the big actors are migrating to TV. Look at the actors that have done shows on AMC, FX, HBO, Showtime, and now Netflix and Amazon. I think its the future and you will even see more straight to Netflix and HBO small budget movies
That, and entertainment is becoming more of an "on demand" process. Going to a dinner and a movie used to be a big deal. Now I think many people would just rather stay home and watch TV or a movie once it hits Netflix or the internet.
Admittedly, I'm not a big movie person, but paying an exorbitant to go sit in a theater with numerous strangers (many with no respect for other's experience and no sense of decorum) just doesn't appeal to me much any more.
I can save a bunch of money and stay at home, watch the movie with complete peace and quiet on a fairly large screen HD TV. Maybe I'm just getting older, but the fun of "going to the movies" just isn't there anymore.
Posted on 2/16/17 at 10:28 am to Baloo
Well said. The public deserves blame in this as well.
Posted on 2/16/17 at 10:44 am to Tarik One
I think that Hollywood has a simplicity problem. They are constantly pumping out big budget, expensive films that are well formulated in order to make money. We see the same recycled plot points over and over in movies (i.e. Star Wars: The Force Awakens) or are drowned in remakes and sequels. Hollywood needs to realize in many cases, simplicity in the plot and story often drive home the best points and make for the best films. Whiplash is an example in the past few years for me. Simple plot, good characters that we actually care about and are interested in, and very emotionally engaging.
Posted on 2/16/17 at 11:16 am to Baloo
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Maybe, just maybe, the problem isn't a lack of original films. It's that audiences don't WATCH original films.
never thought of it that way. I like your way of thinking
Posted on 2/16/17 at 11:16 am to TheCaterpillar
Script writing is pure garbage so original content is limited these days. This explains all of the sequels.
Also, movies seemed to be dumbed down for the new generation.
Also, movies seemed to be dumbed down for the new generation.
Posted on 2/16/17 at 11:27 am to Baloo
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Shocking to know, but Hollywood will put out whatever the public demands. They are interested in making money. So the problem isn't Hollywood, its audiences for continually going to see retreads and formula films.
So why are ticket sales and profits down? Hollywood has an agenda and a lot of idiots making too much money.
Posted on 2/16/17 at 11:42 am to rebelrouser
Because they spend too much making movies. There's no reason a romantic comedy should cost near $100 million. I get a special effects film costing a ton, but budgets are out of control.
And while ticket sales aren't at an all-time high, they are pretty close. They sold 1.31 million tickets last year, slightly down from 2015 and more importantly, down from the all-time high of 1.57 million in 2002. But tickets sales are well up from the 90s. 1996 was the first time we ever cracked 1.3 million.
Hollywood did make $11.37 billion last year, which was an all-time record. So they aren't hurting. And that's before we get to worldwide grosses.
Honestly, despite people's belly-aching, this is a sustainable model: formulaic big tent movies to pay the rent and a bunch of smaller, limited budget movies for quality and prestige. The problem is trying to have TOO many tentpoles. By definition, there should just be one. The problem right now is spending way too much on the "middle class" of films. People's lack of interest do not support their budgets.
And while ticket sales aren't at an all-time high, they are pretty close. They sold 1.31 million tickets last year, slightly down from 2015 and more importantly, down from the all-time high of 1.57 million in 2002. But tickets sales are well up from the 90s. 1996 was the first time we ever cracked 1.3 million.
Hollywood did make $11.37 billion last year, which was an all-time record. So they aren't hurting. And that's before we get to worldwide grosses.
Honestly, despite people's belly-aching, this is a sustainable model: formulaic big tent movies to pay the rent and a bunch of smaller, limited budget movies for quality and prestige. The problem is trying to have TOO many tentpoles. By definition, there should just be one. The problem right now is spending way too much on the "middle class" of films. People's lack of interest do not support their budgets.
Posted on 2/16/17 at 11:43 am to Tarik One
Couldn't agree more. All the remakes are painful too. I'm a woman and I have NO desire to see a female cast of Ghostbusters or Oceans 11
This post was edited on 2/16/17 at 11:45 am
Posted on 2/16/17 at 12:51 pm to LSUMaverick
Really depends on what people think of blockbusters. I love the MCU's direction right now and the upcoming slate of films is pretty exciting to me. I'm glad to have movies I'm excited about not just this summer, but even November is packed.
And like Baloo said, these films help pay the rent for some of the smaller more artistic films to be made.
And like Baloo said, these films help pay the rent for some of the smaller more artistic films to be made.
Posted on 2/16/17 at 2:33 pm to Breesus
Whiplash, Ex Machina, Mad Max, Life of Pi, Django, Jungle Book, Gone Girl and Dallas Buyer's Club. I'll agree with those. I'd add Hell or High Water. I loved that movie.
Whiplash is top 10 all-time for me. Goddamn that movie is amazing.
Whiplash is top 10 all-time for me. Goddamn that movie is amazing.
This post was edited on 2/16/17 at 2:36 pm
Posted on 2/16/17 at 2:41 pm to Breesus
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quote: I can't think of a single straight up comedy that I've liked in 10 years or more.
2009-2014: Zombieland
I love you man
The Hangover
Observe and Report
The Other Guys
Hot Tub Time Machine
Dinner for Schmucks
MacGruber
Bridesmaids
Hall Pass
Horrible Bosses
Cedar Rapids
Paul
Goon
Ted
21 Jump street
The Campaign
This is the end
We're the Millers
The incredible Burt Wonderstone
Bad Grandpa
However, since 2014 there has been major gap in solid comedies.
Zombieland was pretty good, but otherwise I still can't think of any good comedies in the last 10 years or more.
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