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re: Is Scar the biggest POS in all of the Disney Animated Films?
Posted on 2/28/17 at 12:20 am to CBandits82
Posted on 2/28/17 at 12:20 am to CBandits82
Doctor Faciller is also POS
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Posted on 2/28/17 at 7:48 am to WeBleedCrimson
That damn fat-arse coachman was Disney's John Wayne Gacy.
Posted on 2/28/17 at 8:37 am to JohnnyBgood
Tangent, but everyone realizes that Nala and Simba were most likely half-siblings, cousins at best, right?
Posted on 2/28/17 at 8:40 am to OMLandshark
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Maleficent was also a huge bitch. She cursed an innocent child to death all because she wasn't invited to a baptism. That's low.
Yeah she's near the top as well.
Posted on 2/28/17 at 11:02 am to CBandits82
I feel like OMLandshark is sensationalizing Frollo a bit. He's definitely up there with Scar. But to say Scar is understandable, at least compared to Frollo, is silly. They each have their justifications (years of jealousy and religious compulsion, respectively), which is why they are so compelling. But Scar desired power to the point that he killed his brother who clearly was wary of him, but who also clearly loved him. He also tried to kill his nephew. Then he subjugated an entire kingdom and ruled over them in a militaristic and authoritarian manner remiscent of Nazi Germany and the Stalin's Russia.
Frollo tried to burn Paris and failed. He desired a woman to the point that he would destroy the city he lived in to get her. He did desire to purge the city of witchcraft and sorcery, but that pales in comparison to what Scar did and, particularly, what Jafar tried to do. Both of these characters tried or did subjugate a whole population (or worse).
Jafar has to be up there given that he overthrew the Sultan, enslaved the princess and tried basically to take over the entire cosmos and subjugate the entirety of existence, let alone the sultanate. But is he understandable because it was power he wanted and not a woman?
All of these villains are borderline psychotic, if not full blown. It's tough for me to put Frollo above Scar or Jafar despite the clearly more sinister depiction of the character.
Frollo tried to burn Paris and failed. He desired a woman to the point that he would destroy the city he lived in to get her. He did desire to purge the city of witchcraft and sorcery, but that pales in comparison to what Scar did and, particularly, what Jafar tried to do. Both of these characters tried or did subjugate a whole population (or worse).
Jafar has to be up there given that he overthrew the Sultan, enslaved the princess and tried basically to take over the entire cosmos and subjugate the entirety of existence, let alone the sultanate. But is he understandable because it was power he wanted and not a woman?
All of these villains are borderline psychotic, if not full blown. It's tough for me to put Frollo above Scar or Jafar despite the clearly more sinister depiction of the character.
Posted on 2/28/17 at 11:29 am to Green Chili Tiger
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Shere Khan
This post was edited on 2/28/17 at 11:30 am
Posted on 2/28/17 at 11:39 am to Freauxzen
Frollo was that kind of evil where he legit thought he was the good guy and that made him all the more real and all the more frightening.
Posted on 2/28/17 at 11:43 am to jeff5891
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everyone is forgetting Jafar
Jafar's the good guy. Trying to overthrow an incompetent ruling family that has impoverished the land and sits in complete obliviousness to everything is the right thing to do.
Posted on 2/28/17 at 11:47 am to GetCocky11
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Guy from Hunchback wanted to murder Esmerelda bc he had the hots for her.
He is a POS, too.
Ironically, Frollo wasn't even the biggest POS in the original novel. That would be Captain Phoebus.
Posted on 2/28/17 at 11:54 am to LoveThatMoney
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I feel like OMLandshark is sensationalizing Frollo a bit. He's definitely up there with Scar. But to say Scar is understandable, at least compared to Frollo, is silly. They each have their justifications (years of jealousy and religious compulsion, respectively), which is why they are so compelling. But Scar desired power to the point that he killed his brother who clearly was wary of him, but who also clearly loved him. He also tried to kill his nephew. Then he subjugated an entire kingdom and ruled over them in a militaristic and authoritarian manner remiscent of Nazi Germany and the Stalin's Russia.
But to get true power is something that is grand and understandable. It's just an end goal he will go to any lengths to achieve. Sadly most people in power can probably identify with Scar on that.
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Frollo tried to burn Paris and failed.
I think he was pretty successful at that.
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He desired a woman to the point that he would destroy the city he lived in to get her. He did desire to purge the city of witchcraft and sorcery, but that pales in comparison to what Scar did and, particularly, what Jafar tried to do. Both of these characters tried or did subjugate a whole population (or worse).
Frollo was a genocidal maniac who planned to execute every single gypsy in the city. His motives are much more petty than Scar or Jafar's, and he thinks he is morally justified in everything he does. Like for instance when a family couldn't help him find Esmerelda, he locked them in their house and lit it on fire. I just don't see Scar or Jafar going out of their way to do something that god damn evil for no real reason. Hell his whole musical number is about being morally justified for rape and murder.
Posted on 2/28/17 at 12:01 pm to CBandits82
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Dude murdered his brother and tried to murder his nephew, who was also a child. He also single handedly fricked up the circle of life and brought down an entire region of Africa. On top of all of this his mannerisms were creepy as hell and he was also a traitor to his whole species by aligning with their sworn enemy, the hyenas. He was an evil bastard and deserved to be eaten alive.
Scar was just doing his thing as a lion. I mean Simba's dad did basically make the shadowlands the ghetto while he had all that food in his pride lands. He got his arse MAGA'd.
Lion King 2 is wrong, Simba would of killed all of Scar's cubs to force all the lioness's into heat and he would of banged his mom too.
This post was edited on 2/28/17 at 12:06 pm
Posted on 2/28/17 at 12:15 pm to OMLandshark
Another one that no one has mentioned is the Horned King from The Black Cauldron.
He wanted to raise an army of the undead to wipe out all living things. Not a specific person or a race or even all humans, every living thing.
He wanted to raise an army of the undead to wipe out all living things. Not a specific person or a race or even all humans, every living thing.
This post was edited on 2/28/17 at 12:19 pm
Posted on 2/28/17 at 12:18 pm to Dam Guide
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Scar was just doing his thing as a lion.
bringing actual nature in to it.
Posted on 2/28/17 at 12:28 pm to Speedy G
I forgot how outright fricked up some of these Disney villains were. shite.
Posted on 2/28/17 at 1:16 pm to cas4t
Right? This thread is hilarious
It also kind of supports my decades old stance that Gaston got a bad rap.
So he's arrogant - and? I'd be arrogant too if the entire village broke into song and dance about how awesome I was every time I walked into a bar.
So he wanted to kill the beast. Sorry he's not on board with beastiality, kidnapping, and Stockholm syndrome. God forbid he fail to endorse that behavior. Also, was he supposed to know that the beast was actually a prince? Is that the kind of voodoo bullshite that these small-town villagers are supposed to be well-versed in?
All he can really be accused of is being a little too much of a bro. Happens to the best of us.
It also kind of supports my decades old stance that Gaston got a bad rap.
So he's arrogant - and? I'd be arrogant too if the entire village broke into song and dance about how awesome I was every time I walked into a bar.
So he wanted to kill the beast. Sorry he's not on board with beastiality, kidnapping, and Stockholm syndrome. God forbid he fail to endorse that behavior. Also, was he supposed to know that the beast was actually a prince? Is that the kind of voodoo bullshite that these small-town villagers are supposed to be well-versed in?
All he can really be accused of is being a little too much of a bro. Happens to the best of us.
This post was edited on 2/28/17 at 1:17 pm
Posted on 2/28/17 at 1:31 pm to NawlinsTiger9
Yeah, if anyone was the monster/villain in that movie, it was easily Beast. Kidnap an old man and only free him when his daughter offers herself in exchange and you want to put your lipstick peen inside her? Dafuq is wrong with you?!
Posted on 2/28/17 at 1:44 pm to NawlinsTiger9
Gaston, Scar, and Jafar are all secretly the good guys.
It's possible that Ursula gets screwed too. We know she was banished by King Triton but was it justified? He certainly is shown to be a wildly xenophobic hater of humans and clearly has temper issues that border on abusive. Perhaps she suggested to him to ease tensions w/the humans b/c she thought as a trusted advisor Triton would consider her idea and instead got kicked out of the kingdom over it.
It's possible that Ursula gets screwed too. We know she was banished by King Triton but was it justified? He certainly is shown to be a wildly xenophobic hater of humans and clearly has temper issues that border on abusive. Perhaps she suggested to him to ease tensions w/the humans b/c she thought as a trusted advisor Triton would consider her idea and instead got kicked out of the kingdom over it.
This post was edited on 2/28/17 at 1:46 pm
Posted on 2/28/17 at 1:48 pm to NawlinsTiger9
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All he can really be accused of is being a little too much of un frere
FIFY
Cracked did a really good After Hours on why Gaston is the hero and that story is a tragedy.
The gist is that everyone in town thought Belle was a nerd bit he saw past that and loved her anyway. He tried to protect her from her crazy dad who traded her to the beast and he was awesome in general enough so that everyone liked him.
#teamgaston
This post was edited on 2/28/17 at 1:50 pm
Posted on 2/28/17 at 2:44 pm to CBandits82
I thought thie was about Scarlett Johansson
Posted on 2/28/17 at 2:46 pm to Dandy Lion
Nope, a different fictional character who only breeds with Africans.
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