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re: I think everybody that plays The Joker can't not do a very good job

Posted on 1/1/16 at 8:53 pm to
Posted by Breesus
House of the Rising Sun
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Posted on 1/1/16 at 8:53 pm to
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It's a goddamn cartoon. Literally any actor can do voice over.



I cant belive someone with your name made this post.

Captain Brannigan wouldn't be who he is today without his voice. Anyone else does it and it's a completely different character.

Got listen to Chris Farley's Shrek tapes and tell me himand Mike Meyers would've been on the same level
Posted by elprez00
Hammond, LA
Member since Sep 2011
29418 posts
Posted on 1/3/16 at 5:57 pm to
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quote: I cannot wait to see Mark Hamills return for Killing Joke. When this be?

Will be this year. Hamill was announced at comic con. Mark has been on record saying He only way he'd come back would be to do Killing Joke. Also DC ok'd an R rating, which given the source I really don't see how you can do that any other way.

Supposedly Kevin Conroy will voice Batman as well.
Posted by ThoseGuys
Wishing I was back in NC
Member since Nov 2012
1982 posts
Posted on 1/3/16 at 6:09 pm to
Voice actors are very unrated. Many times those characters become associated with certain actors.
Posted by BunkieWrench
Katy
Member since Nov 2008
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Posted on 1/3/16 at 8:50 pm to
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"Can't not" So they can not, not do a very good job? So they've all been good?



Interesting that the self-appointed Captain of the grammar police hates to read.

OP's point is that every actor manages to do an excellent job with the role.

Your New Year resolution should be to not be so eager to be an a-hole.

Posted by mizzoubuckeyeiowa
Member since Nov 2015
35617 posts
Posted on 1/3/16 at 8:57 pm to
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When Batman with Nicholson came out, people loved his Joker.

For some reason when Heath did it, some people felt they had to shite on previous Jokers to somehow prop Heath on a pedestal.


I remember that. Everyone loved Jack and really loved Keaton.

Then the new kids come along and everything back then is deemed campy or bad.
Posted by BaddestAndvari
That Overweight Racist State
Member since Mar 2011
18300 posts
Posted on 1/3/16 at 10:04 pm to
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It's a goddamn cartoon. Literally any actor can do voice over.


Where you born stupid, or was it learned?
Posted by OMLandshark
Member since Apr 2009
109046 posts
Posted on 1/3/16 at 10:52 pm to
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It's a goddamn cartoon. Literally any actor can do voice over.



Compare Mark Hamill's voice overs to really anyone's in the Madagascar series. The subtlties he gets in a voice are much more impecable than any of those clowns can. It's clearly just actors doing a voice there. Conroy and Hamill embody the characters and can get very subtle intricacies of the voices that feel real. Chris Rock screaming about pooka dots doesn't do that. Mark Hamill is one of the best living voice actors, and no, very, very few can do what he does.
Posted by OMLandshark
Member since Apr 2009
109046 posts
Posted on 1/3/16 at 10:54 pm to
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I cant belive someone with your name made this post.

Captain Brannigan wouldn't be who he is today without his voice. Anyone else does it and it's a completely different character.



Yeah, no shite. The irony is just so rich.

And there is one other that could do Brannigan's voice: Phil Hartman.
Posted by OMLandshark
Member since Apr 2009
109046 posts
Posted on 1/3/16 at 10:57 pm to
And yeah, tell me this acting job isn't impeccable in every sense of the word: LINK
Posted by ThoseGuys
Wishing I was back in NC
Member since Nov 2012
1982 posts
Posted on 1/3/16 at 11:05 pm to
Good point. Many celeb voice over movies just want the celeb to be themselves. The character is based off the actor.

In pre established characters, the actor has to model themselves as someone else.
Posted by CaptainBrannigan
Good Ole Rocky Top Tennessee
Member since Jan 2010
21644 posts
Posted on 1/7/16 at 9:51 am to
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d Hamill embody the characters and can get very subtle intricacies of the voices that feel real


So this characteristic is unique to Hamill? No other actor can do this in any role? Especially without having to do any of the physical acting.

Fanboys gonna fanboy.
Posted by GumBro Jackson
Raleigh
Member since Mar 2011
3115 posts
Posted on 1/7/16 at 11:25 am to
OP is right that all of the major onscreen performances so far have been good. Romero was a great fit for the old campy show. I liked the 1989 Batman and thought Nicholson was very fun as the Joker, and Hamill does a good Joker voice, but I thought that Ledger's joker was on a completely different level and his is by far my favorite.

I'm not sure about Leto's take. Don't really like what I have seen so far, but I'll reserve judgment until I see it.
Posted by Breesus
House of the Rising Sun
Member since Jan 2010
66982 posts
Posted on 1/7/16 at 11:32 am to
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So this characteristic is unique to Hamill?

Yes
quote:

No other actor can do this in any role?

what?

If someone other than Hamil voiced the Joker, it would be a completely different character.

How do you not get this easy point?
This post was edited on 1/7/16 at 1:40 pm
Posted by MSTiger33
Member since Oct 2007
20401 posts
Posted on 1/7/16 at 1:36 pm to
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Respectfully disagree....eventually someone would (or will) attempt to portray him as a sympathetic character and I doubt that will really fly.


You should read the Killing Joke
Posted by dukke v
PLUTO
Member since Jul 2006
203356 posts
Posted on 1/7/16 at 1:55 pm to
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But I also think Keaton was the best Batman


Without question... But he looked uninspired for the second one.. That movie wasn't even close to being as good as the 1st... And as far as the Joker... Sorry folks... Jack was on a different level...........
Posted by ZappBrannigan
Member since Jun 2015
7692 posts
Posted on 1/7/16 at 10:37 pm to
Romero never gets enough credit.

He brought the golden age Joker to life.



And that's the thing with all of them, they played their source material well. Except Jack, Jack played Jack with a Romero vibe and danced to Prince, but that's Jack and it doesn't diminish how wonderfully mafia camp he was. Because Jack is Jack.

Animation allowed a better fusing of Joker through the ages and Mark Hamill like Cesar Romero before him and Heath Ledger after him created a definitive performance.

And don't discount John DiMaggio, we got a great Joker out of him in Under the Red Hood.
Posted by SG_Geaux
Beautiful St George
Member since Aug 2004
78060 posts
Posted on 1/7/16 at 10:44 pm to
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It's a goddamn cartoon. Literally any actor can do voice over. 


Who else could voice Optimus Prime?
Posted by CGSC Lobotomy
Member since Sep 2011
80415 posts
Posted on 1/7/16 at 10:55 pm to
Mark Hamill's Joker is so iconic that Troy Baker made his voice as close as possible.
Posted by ZappBrannigan
Member since Jun 2015
7692 posts
Posted on 1/7/16 at 10:57 pm to
Don't joke, Peter Cullen is immortal.



edit: And with his Highlander powers will one day ride the roads in a red and blue Peterbilt stopping at various intersections and telling folks it's time to "Transform and roll out."
This post was edited on 1/7/16 at 11:00 pm
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