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re: I can't watch a Woody Allen movie any more
Posted on 10/30/14 at 11:38 am to DelU249
Posted on 10/30/14 at 11:38 am to DelU249
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so his ex wife, ex employees, children and others just all decided to tell the same lie years apart.
well to be fair
as for mia and the child. if mia told her that it happened enough, the child will grow up and fully believe it happened
implanting memories is easy, even as an adult. if you start implanting a false memory as a child, it's exceptionally easy
His son disputes the allegations
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The day in question, there were six or seven of us in the house. We were all in public rooms and no one, not my father or sister, was off in any private spaces. My mother was conveniently out shopping. I don’t know if my sister really believes she was molested or is trying to please her mother. Pleasing my mother was very powerful motivation because to be on her wrong side was horrible.
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Posted on 10/30/14 at 11:39 am to SlowFlowPro
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have no idea what happened
clearly you do, we just don't KNOW...I'm not saying they should ring the guy up on charges.
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i think it's entirely possible he did it
replace "entirely possible" with "very likely" and you have my precise feelings on the matter
An actor being a POS, or alleged POS can affect my enjoyment of the film. I have to buy him as a different person, a character, and I can't look at woody allen without all of those things coming to mind. I'm not arguing his talent.
Posted on 10/30/14 at 11:40 am to Rex
Not a big fan of Woody... Haven't seen but maybe like 4 of his movies though.
Posted on 10/30/14 at 11:56 am to Rex
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Is it OK to enjoy productions by people you despise?
OK? Sure
I am often conflicted though.
Allen
Tom Cruise
Julia Roberts
Clooney
Fortunately I never liked Lennon to begin with.
Posted on 10/30/14 at 11:59 am to Fewer Kilometers
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You've got your own PR going there
Me - absolutely no personal stake in whether or not Woody Allen is a child molester.
Woody Allen - huge personal stake in the same situation.
The "major dispute" is Allen's pr team, hard at work.
What constitutes "one-sided?" Do numerous accusers only constitute a single entity? What would constitute a 2-sided allegation, and thereby be legitimate in your eyes? Is this what happens in criminal court? Both sides agree on the guilt or innocence of an accused person?
Posted on 10/30/14 at 12:05 pm to UL-SabanRival
you hear so many different people tell the same story over a period of 20 plus years and it becomes increasingly less likely that mia farrow is lying
although a total count because to hear her story, she's an enabler and takes no responsibility
she'd sell those kids out for a meal ticket all over again
although a total count because to hear her story, she's an enabler and takes no responsibility
she'd sell those kids out for a meal ticket all over again
Posted on 10/30/14 at 12:09 pm to UL-SabanRival
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What constitutes "one-sided?" Do numerous accusers only constitute a single entity? What would constitute a 2-sided allegation, and thereby be legitimate in your eyes? Is this what happens in criminal court? Both sides agree on the guilt or innocence of an accused person?
Accusers or witnesses?
Posted on 10/30/14 at 12:15 pm to Fewer Kilometers
Prosecution and defense?
And yeah, I get the bitter ex wife angle, but I've never seen someone accused repeatedly, ceaselessly over the course of decades like Allen has with his former family, one of whom he married when she was a teenager. But yeah, that dint begin until it was all nice and legal like, right?
As for Slo's strained point about repeating lies, Dylan's recollection of the attic story is very detailed and has not changed over the years.
And yeah, I get the bitter ex wife angle, but I've never seen someone accused repeatedly, ceaselessly over the course of decades like Allen has with his former family, one of whom he married when she was a teenager. But yeah, that dint begin until it was all nice and legal like, right?
As for Slo's strained point about repeating lies, Dylan's recollection of the attic story is very detailed and has not changed over the years.
Posted on 10/30/14 at 12:25 pm to UL-SabanRival
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As for Slo's strained point about repeating lies, Dylan's recollection of the attic story is very detailed and has not changed over the years.
you need to go read up on false memory syndrome
again, i'm not saying what did or didn't happen. the fact that she remembers this is simply not persuasive to me
the fact that her mother started this all and turned it into a crusade makes me weary as well
Posted on 10/30/14 at 12:30 pm to SlowFlowPro
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the fact that her mother started this all and turned it into a crusade makes me weary as well
as it should and you also seem to realize, we're making judgments and assumptions, not saying we believe charges should be filed
and all of this is in conjunction with the fact he married his adopted daughter whom he had cared for as a very small child (I don't know what that other poster is talking about)
which way is the arrow pointing for you? I respect "I don't know" because none of us do, but I can't watch his movies when I have great reason to suspect he's a child molester
Posted on 10/30/14 at 12:31 pm to DelU249
Admit if Fox. Did Woody touch you?
Posted on 10/30/14 at 12:37 pm to TigerMyth36
typical response, the guy is a child molester and it's "you hatin'"
Posted on 10/30/14 at 12:39 pm to DelU249
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as it should and you also seem to realize, we're making judgments and assumptions, not saying we believe charges should be filed
i'm talking about whether farrow's memory is true or not
our memories are bullshite
This post was edited on 10/30/14 at 12:39 pm
Posted on 10/30/14 at 12:47 pm to SlowFlowPro
BTW, the whole, mia implanted false memories or coached her kids
Dylan farrow refused to testify, investigators thought she was too afraid and frail to take the stand and without her they couldn't press charges, the judge in the custody battle sternly remarked how inappropriately allen had behaved around children and noted that he couldn't find anything to suggest farrow was lying or had coached her children. Allen also changed his story several times in regard to his story, while Dylan farrow, ronan farrow, mia farrow, the housekeepers interviewed by LE and others have told the same story for over 20 years now, with no inconsistencies.
Again, I'm not ready to book him, but he's a fricking child molester...and marrying a girl he had known since she was around 8 is fricking gross. Just keeping the nude photos of her is a fricking red flag
Dylan farrow refused to testify, investigators thought she was too afraid and frail to take the stand and without her they couldn't press charges, the judge in the custody battle sternly remarked how inappropriately allen had behaved around children and noted that he couldn't find anything to suggest farrow was lying or had coached her children. Allen also changed his story several times in regard to his story, while Dylan farrow, ronan farrow, mia farrow, the housekeepers interviewed by LE and others have told the same story for over 20 years now, with no inconsistencies.
Again, I'm not ready to book him, but he's a fricking child molester...and marrying a girl he had known since she was around 8 is fricking gross. Just keeping the nude photos of her is a fricking red flag
Posted on 10/30/14 at 12:47 pm to DelU249
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and all of this is in conjunction with the fact he married his adopted daughter whom he had cared for as a very small child (I don't know what that other poster is talking about)
I'm not sure that this is to the letter true. At the very least she wasn't his adopted daughter. It's these kinds of slants on the situation that make me question the entirety of how Allen is portrayed.
The most I can think is that the entire situations is mixed up and dirty. All look bad except for the people who were young children when they were victimized in some sort of way either by mother figures, father figures, and likely both.
This post was edited on 10/30/14 at 12:48 pm
Posted on 10/30/14 at 12:48 pm to SlowFlowPro
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you need to go read up on false memory syndrome
Yeah, your argument is based on the vague, theoretical possibility that she is lying or has been conditioned. Mine is based on her and others' actual testimony.
The crusade part actually makes it more convincing to me. What else would someone do if they knew a person was guilty? They don't have cum-stained onesies to enter into evidence. All they have is continued disgust over the fact that he is praised and that their repeated accusations have fallen on willingly deaf ears.
Posted on 10/30/14 at 12:51 pm to UL-SabanRival
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Mine is based on her and others' actual testimony.
the investigators all went out of their way to note, they felt allen had been untruthful. They could've coerced her on the stand and pressed charges, they didn't because they thought it would be too much for her...if they were really after allen, they'd just try and get her on the stand.
also, there were witnesses to Dylan farrow's sexual abuse, but again...couldn't prosecute without Dylan's testimony. It's sick shite, and I think a lot of people just read one vanity fair article, but LISTEN to these people talk about it. It's disturbing
Posted on 10/30/14 at 12:52 pm to SlowFlowPro
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our memories are bullshite
Yeah, witness testimony would never hold up in court.
Sure, you can shoot it full of holes sometimes, but to say "memory is bullshite" is one of the dumbest things I've ever read.
Posted on 10/30/14 at 12:52 pm to Peazey
he lived with her since she was 8...there's nothing to dispute...it's fricking out there man...soon yi is pure speculation, made easier by the detailed accounts and witnesses to Dylan farrow's abuse
Posted on 10/30/14 at 12:52 pm to Blue Velvet
quote:Explain.
Dear god you people are batshit insane.
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