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re: I can't watch a Woody Allen movie any more

Posted on 10/30/14 at 9:16 am to
Posted by Peazey
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Posted on 10/30/14 at 9:16 am to
I was just reading about it. I had forgotten about the accusations way after the fact that he molested Dylan. There's reason to not just completely believe that though. They had reason to lie. Then again maybe he really did do it.
Posted by BC Tweeker
NOLA
Member since Dec 2012
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Posted on 10/30/14 at 9:18 am to
It wasn't just the Soon Yi deal. He has actually been accused of diddling his seven year old daughter, Dylan Farrow.
Posted by TigerRad
Columbia, SC
Member since Jan 2007
5354 posts
Posted on 10/30/14 at 9:19 am to
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decades of sexually abusing children


This is basically just some crazy shite you read on the Internet. If you were famous, I could say the same thing about you, publicize it, and that stink would stay on you for years too.

My post was addressing the soonyi situation. The Dylan Farrow situation is a different issue, and based on a one time accusation by the (very pissed off and crazy female) Mia. There are no " decades" or "children".

I have posted at length regarding the facts of the case previously here and will not now repeat myself. I'd advise you to read everything written by both sides and consider the evidence unemotionally before you assume the truth of unspeakable horrifying evil.
Posted by DelU249
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Posted on 10/30/14 at 9:20 am to
so his ex wife, ex employees, children and others just all decided to tell the same lie years apart...listen to farrow's interview on howard stern and judge for yourself

I believe every word of it...what's sicker is how people in the industry protected him
Posted by DelU249
Austria
Member since Dec 2010
77625 posts
Posted on 10/30/14 at 9:21 am to
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is is basically just some crazy shite you read on the Internet


it's some crazy shite his children, ex wife, ex staff, ex shrink, etc...have all said. Keep idolizing him. He does make great movies after all

Posted by TigerMyth36
River Ridge
Member since Nov 2005
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Posted on 10/30/14 at 9:21 am to
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are people even familiar with the stories and allegations against allen, and who has made them?


I have no clue if those allegations are true. Kids lie. That is a simple fact. Look up the McMartin case to see how easily kids can go off the rails and be led to lie.

I have no problem believing Mia Farrow got her kids to lie.

Is it possible, he did it? Yup. Is it possible Farrow had her kids lie? Yup.

Was there enough evidence to prosecute? Nope.

I guess I should have said at best, he is creepy and at worst criminal whereas with Polanski, there is no doubt.
Posted by goatmilker
Castle Anthrax
Member since Feb 2009
64319 posts
Posted on 10/30/14 at 9:24 am to
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Is it OK to enjoy productions by people you despise?


If your older than six?

Yes.
Posted by TigerRad
Columbia, SC
Member since Jan 2007
5354 posts
Posted on 10/30/14 at 9:26 am to
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I believe every word of it.


Thanks for confirming my assumption of your credulity


Us magazine and the national enquirer appreciate your business
This post was edited on 10/30/14 at 9:27 am
Posted by DelU249
Austria
Member since Dec 2010
77625 posts
Posted on 10/30/14 at 9:29 am to
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Kids lie


usually not for 35-40 years, and it is more than 1 kid making the accusation
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have no problem believing Mia Farrow got her kids to lie.
If I read it in print, then yes, but please go listen to her interview on stern...It's incredibly hard to listen to, but she's more than genuine

and BTW, just as complicit.


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Was there enough evidence to prosecute? Nope


no, why don't you find out why. When I say he is "criminal" I mean that he isn't some harmless man who "looks creepy" say what you want for Polanski (and he belongs in jail) but between the 2, Polanski likes much older women
Posted by abellsujr
New England
Member since Apr 2014
35258 posts
Posted on 10/30/14 at 9:35 am to
So, what if a football player is accused of sexual assault with a child? The NFL would never let them back on the field. What about a GM or team owner? They would get the boot. I wish the movie industry was this way personally.
This post was edited on 10/30/14 at 9:36 am
Posted by Peazey
Metry
Member since Apr 2012
25418 posts
Posted on 10/30/14 at 9:38 am to
Without doing a bunch of research into whatever evidence there may be, the one conclusion that seems definite is that they have a pretty damn complicated and messed up family situation.
Posted by Fewer Kilometers
Baton Rouge
Member since Dec 2007
36034 posts
Posted on 10/30/14 at 10:42 am to
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Without doing a bunch of research into whatever evidence there may be, the one conclusion that seems definite is that they have a pretty damn complicated and messed up family situation.


This. Now they think that Allen's son is actually Frank Sinatra's kid. We'll never know the entire truth, but it's obvious that it was an insane setting to raise a family.
Posted by SportsGuyNOLA
New Orleans, LA
Member since May 2014
17007 posts
Posted on 10/30/14 at 11:02 am to
Can you still listen to the Mamas and the Papas "Monday, Monday" and "California Dreaming" without all that child rape and incest coming to mind?

I can't.

Even with Michael Jackson- his songs come on the radio, but the first thing that comes to mind is "child molester" when I hear him.

Roman Polanski should be in jail. Shame on the Hollywood established elite that supports someone like him, and excoriates Mel Gibson for saying some off-color stuff while intoxicated.

Woody Allen is sick too.

And people saying John Lennon is the biggest hypocrite in the world is spot on. I don't think that would make me not listen to his music if I was a fan of it, though. (I am not a fan)
Posted by Melvin
Member since Apr 2011
23535 posts
Posted on 10/30/14 at 11:13 am to
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So, what if a football player is accused of sexual assault with a child? The NFL would never let them back on the field. What about a GM or team owner? They would get the boot. I wish the movie industry was this way personally.
Not if they weren't convicted.
Posted by Blue Velvet
Apple butter toast is nice
Member since Nov 2009
20112 posts
Posted on 10/30/14 at 11:14 am to
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if a football player is accused of sexual assault with a child? The NFL would never let them back on the field. What about a GM or team owner? They would get the boot. I wish the movie industry was this way personally.
Dear god you people are batshit insane.
Posted by Zamoro10
Member since Jul 2008
14743 posts
Posted on 10/30/14 at 11:16 am to
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I actually agree with you. I still like some of his solo work, but yeah, one of the biggest hypocrites ever.


You sound like his killer.

Isn't that the reason - Lennon was considered a huge phony by Mark David Chapman.
Posted by UL-SabanRival
Member since May 2013
4651 posts
Posted on 10/30/14 at 11:17 am to
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are people even familiar with the stories and allegations against allen, and who has made them?

Thank you. I came to post this. Did these people just walk past the part about Woody's many offenses? I guess his PR machine is worth every penny.

And I will never believe that he had no contact with or sexual desire for Soon Yi prior to her 18th birthday, especially considering the numerous other allegations. The dude is fricked in the head, the product of a Hollywood atmosphere that has been cultivating this shite for decades.
Posted by Peazey
Metry
Member since Apr 2012
25418 posts
Posted on 10/30/14 at 11:20 am to
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Isn't that the reason - Lennon was considered a huge phony by Mark David Chapman.


I saw an interview with Chapman where he was talking about his frame of mind at the time. He said that he had become obsessed with the fame of the beatles, and he thought by killing one of them that he would be able to absorb some of that fame.
Posted by Fewer Kilometers
Baton Rouge
Member since Dec 2007
36034 posts
Posted on 10/30/14 at 11:29 am to
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Did these people just walk past the part about Woody's many offenses? I guess his PR machine is worth every penny.

And I will never believe that he had no contact with or sexual desire for Soon Yi prior to her 18th birthday, especially considering the numerous other allegations.


You've got your own PR going there.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
Simple Solutions to Complex Probs
Member since Jan 2004
422311 posts
Posted on 10/30/14 at 11:34 am to
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are people even familiar with the stories and allegations against allen, and who has made them?

there is some major dispute about the dylan farrow stuff. just fyi

i have no idea what happened. i believe allen is a creepazoid. i think it's entirely possible he did it. but 1-sided allegations don't automatically mean he did it
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