re: Hypothetical: X-Men vs the Avengers

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I thought those two weren't in it? If you edited since, then yeah that's a whole different ballgame. Prof X can at least keep Hulk distracted long enough for Crawler to get him off the playing field. Then Magneto should focus on Thor or Vision. I can't remember if Jean ever became as powerful of a telekinetic in the films as she did in the comics. If so, she and storm can work on Vision.

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No they're still out of it. All Nightcrawler needs to do is teleport onto the Hulk's back, immediately teleport out of there bringing the Hulk with him, teleport towards the horizon about 50 miles away, and then Nightcrawler gets the hell out of there and back to the fight. It's not as if Hulk has a great level of concentration when he's in that state. It'd take the Hulk a good 20 minutes to get back to the fight, and they may be able to take out Thor, Vision, and Scarlet Witch by then. Then they could focus their energy on him. That's the only way I see the X-Men winning the fight.

Is he supposed to carry the Hulk all the way back to the battle (which unless he reverts back to Banner I don't see how he can do it) or stop it in the first place?

If we are talking movie versions, I think it was in the avengers when Banner told Widow that he tried to eat a bullet and the other guy spit it out which basically means any lethal attack instantaneously gets his adrenalin up enough to trigger the change. So the xmen may be able to remove him from the battle field but I have no idea how any of them finish him off.

Also can X control Vision if he is allowed in the game. Vision is basically AI. He can also phase out and I have to believe even Magneto couldn't harm him in that state. and he just remains phased out till he puts his hand through Magneto's heart. Vision, Hulk and Thor give the win to Avengers without even discussing the witch or quicksilver.

In the OP and books it's not even close guys.

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He would have a field day with Iron Man, Thor, and Cap.

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The Uru metal that Mjolnir is forged from is not affected by Magneto's abilities, plus he's not worthy.

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You put Quicksilver in the fight. Speed kills, even Nightcrawler.

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Aaron Johnson and Evan Peters instantly cancel each other out due to the paradox effect.

X men in a walk. Hell, going by the movies, quicksilver, magneto, and wolverine could probably take the avengers

I love the movies but I'm not a big comic reader. Can someone tell me just how powerful Thor is because I've heard from friends who do read the comics that Thor is vastly underated in the movies.

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Can someone tell me just how powerful Thor is because I've heard from friends who do read the comics that Thor is vastly underated in the movies.

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Well first, he won our comic book Hero tourney. So that's way important.

But also:

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His strength is incalculable in the sense that the upper limit, if one exists, is unknown and there seems to be nearly anything he can't do through applying his strength. Thor has physically overpowered and defeated the strongest of foes including the Abomination, Gladiator, the Thing, even when he had become Angrir, and Thor nearly killed him with one strike. Thor has stalemated the Savage Hulk, despite the latter's increasing strength due to rage and the struggle going on for hours, and stalemated Hercules in several of contests, and the two even once set the planet they were arm-wrestling on out of orbit. One of Thor's greatest feats was when he lifted the Midgard Serpent, which was so large it could wrap itself several of ties around the Earth and crush it in its grasp. Thor can destroy planets with his strikes, and in a battle with Gorr destroyed countless worlds with life-ending blows, also when he struck Beta Ray Bill so hard that he destroyed the planet they were on, which is why he holds back his vast strength to ensure he does not greatly harm his opponents or the area in which they are in. Nevertheless, Thor can effortlessly press over a million tons, and has strength that rivals and could possibly surpass beings such as the Hulk, Hercules and Sentry.

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He's strong. Like one of the strongest.

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He does not require air, and has been able to withstand planet-shattering attacks, he also withstood the weight of a score of planets, and much more. Though Thor is one of the most invulnerable of Marvel's heroes he is not immune to all forms of harm

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Nigh invulnerable.

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He has flown several of time faster than light on multiple occasions.

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Fast.

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Thor also has the ability to regenerate missing limbs through the use of Mjolnir or the Odin Force (which he currently does not possess, only a small portion that resides within his hammer).

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Healing and Regeneration.

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He's able to see as far as the edge of the solar system and track objects traveling faster than the speed of light. He can also hear cries from the other side of the planet.

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He has also the ability to create unnatural weather like fire rain. Thor can also discharge lightning bolts from his hands that are lethal and raw in power.

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has displayed this ability by creating very powerful earthquakes. Thor also displayed this ability when he created a chasm in Africa between two different areas to prevent the enemies of one side from entering the territory of the other.

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So yeah, then there's the Odin-Force:

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Thor at one point had access to an unlimited amount of power that was known as the Odin-Force. The Odin-Force was the power that Odin himself had wielded before his death that was then passed onto Thor. The Odin-Force was comprised of Odin's power as King of Asgard combined with the powers of his brothers Vili and Ve. These powers added to the powers Thor already had made him virtually omnipotent.

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Yeeaaahhh, Throw in that in the comics he is a long term Warrior and Mjolnir itself gives him even more abilities - including resurrection, creating force fields, etc.

Then he....

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Thor has no specific weaknesses to a substance or magic.

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Great post Freaux. This is why I find these threads terribly boring if not based on the comic characters.