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Hypothetical: X-Men vs the Avengers

Posted on 6/1/16 at 9:06 pm
Posted by OMLandshark
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Posted on 6/1/16 at 9:06 pm
Other Spider-Man vs X-Men thread got me thinking who would win the ultimate battle: The Avengers vs the X-Men? I know they vary, so I'll give you the following teams:

Avengers
Iron Man
Captain America
Thor
Hulk
Black Widow
Hawkeye
Scarlet Witch
Vision
Quicksilver (Avengers not X-Men)
Ant-Man

X-Men
Cyclops
Jean Grey (Non-Phoenix since that would be a curb stomp)
Wolverine
Storm
Rogue
Beast
Nightcrawler
Gambit
Colossus
Kitty Pryde

Leaving Professor X out of it since I think all he has to do is take over the Hulk or Thor and do some serious damage. Who wins with these two teams?

EDIT: I'm going predominantly with the movie versions BTW.
This post was edited on 6/1/16 at 9:36 pm
Posted by Brosef Stalin
Member since Dec 2011
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Posted on 6/1/16 at 9:08 pm to
Are we including Magneto in X-Men? He would have a field day with Iron Man, Thor, and Cap.
Posted by OMLandshark
Member since Apr 2009
108098 posts
Posted on 6/1/16 at 9:10 pm to
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Are we including Magneto in X-Men? He would have a field day with Iron Man, Thor, and Cap.



Just those teams as listed. No Magneto is not in this. I'm just having the regulars of each. Left out Professor X since that by default would make it 11 vs 9, and one of the Avengers most powerful at that.
Posted by EthanL
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Member since Oct 2011
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Posted on 6/1/16 at 9:11 pm to
I declare the Xmen lineup illegitimate. It has to include either Magneto or Professor X
Posted by Roger Klarvin
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Posted on 6/1/16 at 9:15 pm to
Thor and Hulk are essentially immune to all the XMen listed, so I really don't see how it's really a question. One side has members the other literally can't kill.
Posted by OMLandshark
Member since Apr 2009
108098 posts
Posted on 6/1/16 at 9:15 pm to
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I declare the Xmen lineup illegitimate. It has to include either Magneto or Professor X



Magneto first off really isn't an X-Men. Secondly, he'd take out Iron Man, Captain America, Vision, and Ant-Man fairly instantly (and maybe Thor to some extent, although I think he could recover). Hawkeye and Black Widow would be vulnerable as well.

Add in Professor X who could take over one of the more powerful ones (and maybe even more), and its a curb stomp. I initially had Professor X in there, but figured it wasn't much of a debate at that point and replaced him with Colossus.
Posted by EthanL
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Member since Oct 2011
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Posted on 6/1/16 at 9:16 pm to
Ok I've decided to play. Black Widow and Hawkeye would die immediately. Wolverine can't die, so he basically rips through everyone until they die. Rogue steals Hulk's powers. Thor has a fighting chance, as does Vision.

Still the X-Men win easily. You were right to leave the big boys out of this. My bad.
Posted by Sammobile
Hollywood South
Member since Jan 2009
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Posted on 6/1/16 at 9:16 pm to
Man the X-men roster is deep and talented but:



Posted by Roger Klarvin
DFW
Member since Nov 2012
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Posted on 6/1/16 at 9:17 pm to
And Vision has an infinity stone

It wouldnt be close, even with Professor X because whichever if Thor/Hulk he didn't control would just kill him.
Posted by OMLandshark
Member since Apr 2009
108098 posts
Posted on 6/1/16 at 9:17 pm to
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Thor and Hulk are essentially immune to all the XMen listed, so I really don't see how it's really a question. One side has members the other literally can't kill.



I don't know if that's really the case with Jean, Rogue, and Kitty. I'd imagine that the Hulk would be very vulnerable to the first two listed.
Posted by EthanL
Auburn,AL
Member since Oct 2011
6963 posts
Posted on 6/1/16 at 9:18 pm to
How are Thor and Hulk immune?
Posted by Roger Klarvin
DFW
Member since Nov 2012
46505 posts
Posted on 6/1/16 at 9:18 pm to
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Wolverine can't die


Yes he can
Posted by Murray
Member since Aug 2008
14414 posts
Posted on 6/1/16 at 9:19 pm to
1. Iceman and Archangel over Gambit and Kitty Pryde all day, everyday.

2. Where's the 200 page discussion thread on who makes the final cut for each team?
Posted by Errerrerrwere
Member since Aug 2015
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Posted on 6/1/16 at 9:20 pm to
Avengers and I don't think it's even close.
Posted by Murray
Member since Aug 2008
14414 posts
Posted on 6/1/16 at 9:20 pm to
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And Vision has an infinity stone


Oh dear sweet baby Jesus..
Posted by Roger Klarvin
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Member since Nov 2012
46505 posts
Posted on 6/1/16 at 9:20 pm to
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I'd imagine that the Hulk would be very vulnerable to the first two listed.


My understanding is Bruce Banner in Hulk form is indestructible. X could control him, but I don't think anyone could kill him.

Thor is effectively indestructible by human standards.
This post was edited on 6/1/16 at 9:21 pm
Posted by Brosef Stalin
Member since Dec 2011
39161 posts
Posted on 6/1/16 at 9:21 pm to
If Avengers get Vision, then X-Men need to have Professor X or Magneto. This is really unbalanced.
Posted by Murray
Member since Aug 2008
14414 posts
Posted on 6/1/16 at 9:22 pm to
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My understanding is Brice Banner in Hulk form is indestructible.


What is wrong with you?
Posted by OMLandshark
Member since Apr 2009
108098 posts
Posted on 6/1/16 at 9:23 pm to
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1. Iceman and Archangel over Gambit and Kitty Pryde all day, everyday.



I'd easily take both Gambit or Kitty over Archangel. Iceman I might take over Gambit, but Kitty's phasing power is highly potent. Granted the Avengers have the superior phaser with Vision, but it's sure as shite a power I'd want facing off against Thor and the Hulk.
Posted by 13SaintTiger
Isle of Capri
Member since Sep 2011
18315 posts
Posted on 6/1/16 at 9:24 pm to
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X could control him, but I don't think anyone could kill him.



The professor would effectively calm him down and turn him human again, the Bruce becomes chopped liver.
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