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re: Hypothetical: X-Men vs the Avengers

Posted on 6/1/16 at 9:39 pm to
Posted by Murray
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Posted on 6/1/16 at 9:39 pm to
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Same for Vision, Thor, Storm. This should include Iceman, and you'd have the same question for him, he's been massively powerful.


I was just re-reading Jason Aaron's early run on Wolverine and the Xmen the other day and had forgotten the Bobby had just recently figured out how to make multiple, independently functioning ice copies of himself. Add that to his other feats in the last decade or so and he's up their in the power rankings.

Thor and Vision are a little easier to nail down no?

And I hate Storm. Mohawk Storm beating Cyke for the leader spot was SJW bullshite before it was even a thing. I'll never get over it.
Posted by OMLandshark
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Posted on 6/1/16 at 9:40 pm to
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Rogue does not fly, is not innately super strong in the movie version.


Yeah, that's the one I'm thinking of has to be from the Animated Series. Rogue would get curbstomped from the movies, but would be one of the last ones standing if she was fully powered like in the Animated Series.
Posted by Murray
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Posted on 6/1/16 at 9:42 pm to
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Why do that when you have Nightcrawler


He can't teleport that far in movies or comics
Posted by OMLandshark
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Posted on 6/1/16 at 9:44 pm to
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He can't teleport that far in movies or comics



I think it's more implied he's frightened to do that, not that he's physically incapable of doing it.
Posted by biglego
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Posted on 6/1/16 at 9:46 pm to
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quote: My understanding is Bruce Banner in Hulk form is indestructible. X could control him, but I don't think anyone could kill him.


Scarlet Witch didn't have much of a hard time controlling him.

Scarlett Witch has an amazing vagina
Posted by Murray
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Posted on 6/1/16 at 9:47 pm to
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I'm more targetting movie versions.


I swear I'm having déjà vu. You sure you didn't start this thread or something very similar before? I even remember being an arse about it being about comic versions to someone and everything.
Posted by biglego
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Posted on 6/1/16 at 9:47 pm to
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Kitty stopped Juggernaut in X3. She could do something similar to Hulk.

Maybe, but the movie Hulk is vastly stronger and faster than the movie Juggernaut. X3 Jugg was pitiful.
Posted by OMLandshark
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Posted on 6/1/16 at 9:51 pm to
In order for the X-Men to win, I think they have to separate Hulk from the group and then focus their might on Thor and the Vision. They could take down at least 6 of them fairly easily. Scarlet Witch I think is more the wild card with the Avengers side. Thor and Vision would take just about all of them coming together though.
Posted by OMLandshark
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Posted on 6/1/16 at 9:52 pm to
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I swear I'm having déjà vu. You sure you didn't start this thread or something very similar before? I even remember being an arse about it being about comic versions to someone and everything.



Maybe someone made this thread before, but I don't think it was me.
Posted by Brosef Stalin
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Posted on 6/1/16 at 9:55 pm to
Ant Man is the real wild card. Who can hit him if he shrinks down to atomic size? Who can even track him?
Posted by OMLandshark
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Posted on 6/1/16 at 9:56 pm to
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Ant Man is the real wild card. Who can hit him if he shrinks down to atomic size? Who can even track him?



Jean. And if she's near Cyclops or Storm to tell them his location, he's fricked.
Posted by EthanL
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Posted on 6/1/16 at 10:00 pm to
Thanks a lot by the way

Posted by vilma4prez
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Posted on 6/1/16 at 10:02 pm to
It's been a while...

Can't cyclops turn that beam to eleven and decimate anything?
Posted by OMLandshark
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Posted on 6/1/16 at 10:04 pm to
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Can't cyclops turn that beam to eleven and decimate anything?



I don't think his beams are strong enough to decimate the Hulk, Thor, Vision, or Captain America's shield.

That is an awesome image of Cyclops decimating a few of the Avengers, but when he gets to Cap, the shield repels it.
This post was edited on 6/1/16 at 10:05 pm
Posted by Murray
Member since Aug 2008
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Posted on 6/1/16 at 10:06 pm to
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Can't cyclops turn that beam to eleven and decimate anything?


Normally yes, but this is the movie versions so Cyclops tears would suppress a lot of the force before they even got out the gate.
Posted by OMLandshark
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Posted on 6/1/16 at 10:07 pm to
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Normally yes, but this is the movie versions so Cyclops tears would suppress a lot of the force before they even got out the gate.



Apocalypse made his beams pretty damn powerful. It's really only the near invincible Avengers I think he'd have a problem decimating with his beams.
Posted by BoostAddict
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Posted on 6/1/16 at 10:12 pm to
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Secondly, he'd take out Iron Man, Captain America, Vision, and Ant-Man fairly instantly (and maybe Thor to some extent, although I think he could recover). Hawkeye and Black Widow would be vulnerable as well.


I've always thought it was bullshite that Magneto could manipulate non-magnetic metals. If he can move aluminum, titanium, vibranium, etc.. he can move any material. Although, with a powerful enough field, I believe this is possible, as it has been proven in the laboratory.
Posted by Murray
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Posted on 6/1/16 at 10:14 pm to
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Apocalypse made his beams pretty damn powerful.


Really? Sweet. I haven't seen it but hopefully the new version will be truer to the comics.

Seeing as this is the film versions, I just don't see how the Avengers don't clean shop. If you're going only off of what we've seen in film and nothing from their comic counterparts, the Xmen are in trouble.
Posted by Tactical1
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Posted on 6/1/16 at 10:15 pm to
Not even a fair fight. Xavier could probably subdue all of the Avengers by himself.
Posted by OMLandshark
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Posted on 6/1/16 at 10:16 pm to
It's such a precarious position, since with Professor X he just takes control of the Hulk and wins. Magneto would take out more than half of them by default. I think the X-Men can win so long as they buy themselves time with the Hulk, which Nightcrawler could do for them.
This post was edited on 6/1/16 at 10:17 pm
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