re: House of Cards Discussion and Spoiler Party

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The gun control BS is unnecessary. Two straight out lies Claire push when talking about purchasing guns. 1. The gun show loophole, which has been proven doesn't exist and 2. That you can just purchase a gun off the internet with no background check and have it shipped to your door. Than villainies the NRA and have the Republican nominee not like guns but "can't say that" as his wife put it to Claire.

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The best part about the whole gun control stuff is they repeatedly say Lucas purchased the gun illegally.

So even with their bill, he still would have been shot.

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The show isn't as good when Frank isn't the focal point and/or isn't out-manuevring everyone just imho

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You do realize that at some point this was going to end. While I like Frank. He can't out-maneuver everyone in his path. That would get stale very quickly.

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How creepy was the scene in the kitchen after Yates spent the night. Awkward coffee.

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That was about the 9th time in the series I simply looked up and said, "my God, these people are freaks."

And I meant that in the classic "circus freak" way, not the modern sexual way, though that obviously qualifies as well.

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You do realize that at some point this was going to end. While I like Frank. He can't out-maneuver everyone in his path. That would get stale very quickly.

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I'll jump in here and say I agree with you. I'd further say that not only is he no longer outmaneuvering anyone, he fricking sucks at his job as president and seems to garner little in the way of respect from almost everyone he encounters. That's all fine. The point is he keeps stepping in shite and has a list of enemies that stretches from the Potomac to LA to Beijing and Moscow. How is he still standing? It's dragged on long enough.

this season was balls to the walls awesome, especiially the second half

i was an opposed to the VP claire stuff as possible but it actually lead to more Season 1 level manuevering so it worked out great.

The freddy stuff makes perfect sense for anybody who remembers the second season. That was always a one sided friendship

from the looks of it though they literally couldve skipped the entire season 3 and been at the same place. I cant think of any storylines that really build off of season 3 besides the first two episodes dealing with Claires hissy fit.



Also i feel the need to say that Thomas Yates might be the most irrelevant person to ever appear in a TV drama to get as much scene time as he did. I cant figure out what the hell is the point of his presence besides spouting off pretentious garbage about love

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How is he still standing? It's dragged on long enough.

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I guess the rest of the government is just really incompetent

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And I feel like they're drawing it out. It could have been a three season show and been much better.

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American shows need to take notes from the BBC and not Showtime

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I cant think of any storylines that really build off of season 3 besides the first two episodes dealing with Claires hissy fit.

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1. The game catching up with Frank, as he turns out to not be the president he thought he could be.

2. Claire realizes this and takes her first steps towards her own political career, independent of Frank.

3. Frank manages to turn Jackie and Remy against him. One supports the person running against him for the nomination, the other resigns from his staff. They both team up this season and pose the greatest threat to Frank that we have seen.

I was not a fan of last season when it first came out, but after this season I see it differently. Before the 2008 writers strike, most seasons of a tv show would be 24-26 episodes. The strike caused all of the prime time shows to stop mid fall 2007, and pick up mid spring 2008. Many shows suffered from this story wise (Lost and Friday Night Lights for example), but it started the trend that we have now of shorter (13 episode) seasons, or 16 episode seasons broken in half by a mid season break. Studios and creators do that now so they can milk one season of a show for 2 years of award nominations.

All that to say, I now view HOC as a two season show, with seasons 1-2 and 3-4 combined. Seasons 2 and 4 end on much not definite notes than 1 and 3. I guarantee if you binged seasons 3 and 4 together, the faults that everyone perceives will not be nearly as glaring, because it's easier to connect the dots of the story without taking a year long break halfway through.

Yates was a little better this season than season 3 but not one of my favorites.

When is Frank gonna get a hot female side piece to be his Yates? ETA: I wouldn't mind some LeAnn scenes

He's bisexual

Exhibit A: Zoe