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re: Homeland season 2

Posted on 10/9/12 at 11:24 am to
Posted by CBandits82
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Posted on 10/9/12 at 11:24 am to
No way. Saul is too important a charecter to be killed off already. I think he is killing the drunk guy from his unit. Why doesn't Homeland get an official season thread on the board. Do not enough people watch it?
Posted by Nuts
Michigan
Member since Oct 2011
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Posted on 10/9/12 at 11:26 am to
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Homeland seems like the kind of show that would take the risk of eliminating a big piece on the board if it makes sense for the story.


The producers originally wanted Brody's plan to go through and kill off the character. Would have been intense.

[link=( https://www.usatoday.com/life/tv/story/2012/09/27/homeland-tills-suspenseful-soil/57849416/1)]LINK[/link]
This post was edited on 10/9/12 at 11:28 am
Posted by Evolve
Texas
Member since Aug 2012
3117 posts
Posted on 10/9/12 at 11:42 am to
They could take out Claire's character because she is incredibly annoying. Brody's Marine buddy could pick up the pieces and be the focal point digging into Brody's past. They have already kind of set it up with questioning Walker's death and the altercation with his old marine squad at the bar. I think that would be pretty cool.
Posted by Tiger in NY
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Member since Sep 2003
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Posted on 10/9/12 at 11:45 am to
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Who do you think the mole is?



I'm gonna blow your mind and say that it is Estes himself. I have no proof, no evidence, just a hunch.


I keep feeling conflicted on Sol. He does things that say he is not the mole, but he has these weird facial expressions and reactions sometimes. IDK.
Posted by Tiger in NY
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Posted on 10/9/12 at 11:46 am to
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I want to know who Brody is about to kill out in the woods?



I'm thinking it's the drunk guy from his old unit.


Yeah, I thought Mike at first, but now I think it is the drunk guy because he just won't let this Walker thing go.

Don't know how Brody would kill Saul when it looks like he is still in Beruit.
This post was edited on 10/9/12 at 11:50 am
Posted by Dave Worth
Metairie
Member since Dec 2003
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Posted on 10/9/12 at 12:12 pm to
I'm not so sure there is a mole, but I guess you never know with a show like this.

Isn't the main reason for there being a mole because someone slipped the prisoner a razor in Season 1? My memory is a bit hazy, but isn't it perfectly rational that Brody slipped it to him in their struggle?

Let's examine the suspects: mainly Estes, Sol and the guy working under Estes. I think the assumption is the mole is working with Nazir.

If so, you can pretty much rule out Estes and Sol. Both had the ability to cancel the strike before it even got planned without being questioned and didn't. And Nazir is dead without Brody's warning. I don't see how either can really be the mole unless they turn out to be double secret agents. That means we should be able rule out anyone that was in on the strike.

The other guy (is it Galvez?) is possible. We don't know if he knew about the strike or not so he could have been left in the dark. I would doubt Estes right hand guy wouldn't know something was going down, but that could be plausible. We aren't seeing him much this season, so that could be misdirection to get us to forget about him.

My pick is it's either Galvez or someone out of leftfield.


As to who Brody kills...that depends on how sympathetic they want to keep Brody. The drunk is an a-hole and we wouldn't feel too negative towards Brody if he has to kill him. That can create drama/tension and still keep us rooting for Brody.

But if their plan was originally to have him go through with the bombing, they may have a darker path for him. So let me throw out another possible victim...his best friend. Say he gets too close to the truth and Brody has to take him out. Now Brody kills a truly good guy and he's not so sympathetic.

Another possibility is the reporter. Say Brody feels trapped and kills her because she's going to report something bad back to Nazir. I doubt this because it looks like a brutal killing and that may be a bit much with a female that so far is only a go between.

Really, really good show. Like someone earlier said, this show keeps me in more suspense than most horror movies. Brody's character is maybe the most complex I've ever seen in a show. I can sympathize and hate him at the same time for some of his actions. Ultimately I'm hoping he completely redeems himself.
Posted by angryslugs
Member since Apr 2008
10190 posts
Posted on 10/9/12 at 3:33 pm to
That was a good article.

This was probably the best episode yet. I wonder what Saul does with the video. We'll find out if he's the mole or not. It's hard to get a read on that. I hope he's not. I like the guy.

I don't see how this can go longer than 3 seasons unless they kill Brody off
Posted by DivotBreath
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Posted on 10/9/12 at 3:40 pm to
I think the person that Brody kills will be the courier that picked up the video chip from the park bench (which is not necessarily the person that had it in Beruit). He will want to take out the link to that video being something that was shot recently so that he can explain it away as something they had him do while he was a prisoner. This could very well be the tailor that made the vest bomb for Brody as he is also a loose end that needs to be taken care of so that Brody can continue on his political track. He needs to eliminate the loose ends so that in his mind he can potentially deny an association with Nazir.
Posted by rondo
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Posted on 10/9/12 at 9:11 pm to
Holy balls....this show is going to be intense.
Posted by hiltacular
NYC
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Posted on 10/9/12 at 9:53 pm to
Just got caught up, damn that was an intense episode.

I have absolutely no idea where they are heading with the show, there are just too many scenarios and I'm sure it will be something none of us can think of.

I refuse to believe that Saul is the mole but do agree there are about 15 things that point to him being one. The show has made it seem like everyone is a mole tho so who knows.

I'm sure something will happen with this tape where the truth doesn't come out, I'm trying to mentally prepare myself for it. I am really rooting for Carie at this point.
Posted by wish i was tebow
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Posted on 10/9/12 at 9:54 pm to
I just don't think it's Saul because it feels like they want you to think its him
Posted by hiltacular
NYC
Member since Jan 2011
19670 posts
Posted on 10/9/12 at 10:00 pm to
You can look at it from any angle. Like I said, there are all kinds of examples that point to just about every character being a mole.

I do agree that Saul seems to be who they want you to think. If I had to put down money it wouldnt be on Saul.
Posted by RonBurgundy
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Member since Oct 2005
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Posted on 10/9/12 at 11:51 pm to
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I do agree that Saul seems to be who they want you to think. If I had to put down money it wouldnt be on Saul.




I've never had an inkling that he is the mole. Story -wise going forward to multiple seasons, Saul has to be the only connection to the CIA that Carrie has. Carrie, and her craziness, might think that Saul is though. Would be interesting to keep us in the dark and let Carrie just piece it together
Posted by Moss
Member since Sep 2012
1078 posts
Posted on 10/9/12 at 11:55 pm to
To me if Saul was the mole he wouldn't have waited for Carrie when she went back into the apartment.
Posted by geauxlsu07
Adirondack Mountains
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Posted on 10/10/12 at 12:55 am to
I'm now completely caught up and holy frick!!!! What a great show and I fist pumped when Saul saw Brody giving his "farewell" speech
Posted by hiltacular
NYC
Member since Jan 2011
19670 posts
Posted on 10/10/12 at 9:48 am to
quote:

I've never had an inkling that he is the mole. Story -wise going forward to multiple seasons, Saul has to be the only connection to the CIA that Carrie has. Carrie, and her craziness, might think that Saul is though. Would be interesting to keep us in the dark and let Carrie just piece it together



I agree. From another msg board, most people think the most likely scenario is that they keep the video under wraps and tail brody to try and get more info on Nazir. This keeps the main arch going. I tend to agree with that.

ETA I also think we can put to bed the notion that Estes, Galvez, Saul are the mole bc they all were abt to watch Nazir get blown up. I dk how they can be a mole and let that happen.


This post was edited on 10/10/12 at 9:54 am
Posted by Mercy Percy
Norman Oklahoma
Member since Oct 2009
1321 posts
Posted on 10/13/12 at 10:35 am to
Have you seen the previews for Sundays show. Is Brody going to kill the tailor that made the vest in the woods or that drunk in his unit. And what is Saul going to do w the tape. Wowza
Posted by Mercy Percy
Norman Oklahoma
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1321 posts
Posted on 10/14/12 at 8:09 pm to
I'm so ready!!!
Posted by beaver
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Posted on 10/14/12 at 9:42 pm to
I'm a bit behind bc I had to pause earlier but this episode is boring as hell it better finish strong
Posted by wish i was tebow
The Golf Board
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46121 posts
Posted on 10/14/12 at 9:46 pm to
still boring
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