re: Hannibal - Season 3 Thread

I was bummed when Pitt opted out of season three, but Anderson knocked it out of the park. I loved the "surrogate" bit - so wonderfully fricked up.

Great season, great show. Even if it doesn't get picked up, I think the ending of this season will have a satisfactory conclusion; however, I'd love to see Clarice Starling introduced...

I Loved the flying pigs mobile above the bed. It almost brought me tears of joy.

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I don't understand how the ratings can be so bad?

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It's a niche show, and you don't find your niche on network television.

Not a single post after the episode tonight no wonder why this is canceled.

Tonight was a really good episode even though there wasn't much "action". They really built up the Red Dragon eps to come. I really want to see this explored. I never read the books so I didn't really know the back story when I watched Silence of the Lambs originally. I really didn't pay enough attention to the sequels afterwards. Based on the board, I need to watch Manhunter it sounds like. And probably re watch Red Dragon. Will Graham is such a good character, why wasn't he in SotL?

This show is so good though, the last few have really gotten back on track and it's about to end as there's only 5 left.

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It wouldn't have worked had they jumped right in to Will tracking the Red Dragon imo.

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Agreed.

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I always thought anything with SoTL was off limits.

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It is. They do not own the rights.

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It seems like the end of the red dragon arch is a pretty good ending for the show (not that I don't want more eps).

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Hopefully the finale episode is just the culmination of the Red Dragon arch and there is not some cliffhanger.

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Based on the board, I need to watch Manhunter it sounds like. And probably re watch Red Dragon. Will Graham is such a good character, why wasn't he in SotL?

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Because Lecter and Dolarhyde ruined him once and for all.

I liked the way they handled the discovery of the fingerprint. It was a lot more subtle than previous treatments. I'm liking this Red Dragon arc more than I expected.

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It is. They do not own the rights.

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When you say "they" you mean NBC/Fuller? Did Harris not sell them SotL?

Well just read a quick thread from a google search, so DDL sold the rights of the SotL characters to MGM? But doesn't Harris have some say? Maybe someone can give me a quick history so I don't have to keep searching

My memory is for shite. I watched SoTL and Hannibal, but I pretty much zoned out on Hannibal and I don't remember even watching Hannibal Rising which sounds like I didn't miss anything. It does sound like I missed Manhunter so that's going in the queue now.

But the order of the books is Red Dragon, then SoTL I take it. I wonder why they made Lambs first instead of Dragon or is that what manhunter is? Sorry for all the questions but I know someone on here can easily answer them if they feel like it

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Hopefully the finale episode is just the culmination of the Red Dragon arch and there is not some cliffhanger.

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If the show finishes strong and the ratings go up, maybe a cliffhanger would be good and get someone to pick it up??

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Because Lecter and Dolarhyde ruined him once and for all.

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Ok, that makes sense. He was ruined from Hobbs it seemed. So to continue going through this I would guess Hannibal and then RD was enough. Too bad though, would have been cool to have him lend some help even remotely on SotL. I really like his character.

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I liked the way they handled the discovery of the fingerprint. It was a lot more subtle than previous treatments.

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Do you mean from the books or movies? Watching last night, I was like wow, this feels real. Not like the CSI type shows where it all seems far fetched/fake. The way they were handling her body before the funeral seemed real sadly as they needed to get their prints. The way they got it from the eye was pretty cool.

I wish I had the patience to read books anymore, this seems like a good series to read.

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When you say "they" you mean NBC/Fuller? Did Harris not sell them SotL?

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The history of the rights is this: Dino De Laurentiis bought the rights to Red Dragon back in the 80s to make it into a movie (Manhunter). When it flopped, he didn't bother adapting Silence of the Lambs, so Orion (now MGM) did, to great financial success.

Resolving not to miss out again, Dino bought the rights to the next sequel (Hannibal) pretty much the second Thomas Harris finished it, and for a record amount of money. The movie was a commercial success, so De Laurentiis milked the cow further with another Red Dragon adaptation, this one starring Anthony Hopkins. Then he essentially bullied Harris into writing another book so that he could sell another movie (a prequel, Hannibal Rising).

The way the rights break down is that MGM has the rights to Silence of the Lambs, and that means they own any character who originated in that book, which includes Clarice, Buffalo Bill and Barney. The De Laurentiis Company (which produces the show) can use any other character from any of the four books.

This is why characters like Crawford and Chilton could be used by Fuller despite appearing in Silence of the Lambs; they originated in Red Dragon. On the flipside, they couldn't use Paul Krendler (the Ray Liotta character) even though his real material is in "Hannibal," because he technically originated in Silence.

Every year Fuller has approached MGM about getting them to license out the Silence characters, and every year their "no" has gotten a little softer. Fuller remained optimistic that MGM would eventually relent by the time he got to the part of the story where he would introduce Clarice, which I believe would have been Season 5.