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re: Greatest non-fictional villain in film?
Posted on 5/13/15 at 11:55 am to RollTide1987
Posted on 5/13/15 at 11:55 am to RollTide1987
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Posted on 5/13/15 at 11:55 am to abellsujr
He's certainly not portraying the worst person, but enjoy immensely Edward the Longshanks from Braveheart.
Posted on 5/13/15 at 12:30 pm to blueboy
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Edward 1 is a good one.
Commodus, though it's not an accurate story.
Either is Edward I in Braveheart, the guy was a great king, I enjoy Braveheart but the story is pretty much about as much Hollywood bullshite as is possible.
Posted on 5/13/15 at 12:31 pm to SportsGuyNOLA
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Malcolm X
Villains not Heroes, Troll
Posted on 5/13/15 at 12:43 pm to boom roasted
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Not really a villain, but Herbert Sobel from Band of Brothers.
Have you read the Ambrose book?
While it's true that Easy hated Sobel, and he was not a combat leader, most of the guys acknowledged that he was responsible for the tight knit and superb fitness and training they had. Sure Ross plays the role as an a-hole, but I'd hardly call him a villain.
Not to hijack, but something I always loved from the book that wasn't really discussed in the series was when Easy gets to England, their instructors stopped leading PT runs with the company because they were in insanely better shape than any of their instructors and none could keep up.
Posted on 5/13/15 at 12:56 pm to Ace Midnight
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Forrest Whitaker's Idi Amin from Last King of Scotland should be in this discussion, too. He earned every bit of that Oscar.
I was uncomfortable as hell through that whole movie because of his performance.
Posted on 5/13/15 at 1:24 pm to SG_Geaux
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I was uncomfortable as hell through that whole movie because of his performance.
He's such an intense actor - when he wants to be - if you watch his guest role in The Shield (as IAD Lieutenant Cavanaugh) - where he is like Captain Ahab hunting the Strike Team, or even in a single scene like in The Color of Money - he brought an intensity to a bit part (much as his younger self did in Fast Times) that was incredible.
Then you have his comedic role in Good Morning Vietnam - now, for whatever reason, everybody brought their "A" game, whoever cast that one should have gotten some awards. Why he didn't get more work is beyond me.
(Bird is another one - I don't care for the film, but Whitaker is amazing in it.)
But, Last King of Scotland is the one for which he'll be remembered.
Posted on 5/13/15 at 1:30 pm to SportsGuyNOLA
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Malcolm X
This topic is about villains not heroes, breh.
Posted on 5/13/15 at 1:48 pm to Tackle74
quote:I wouldn't say that, but while there is a lot of understandable dramatic license bullshite in that movie, it's not the wild departure from reality that's in Gladiator.
the guy was a great king
Posted on 5/13/15 at 1:52 pm to blueboy
Edward I was an above average king though. There is no question or doubt about that. Did he do some shitty things? Yeah. But even the greatest kings from that era did some questionable deeds.
Posted on 5/13/15 at 1:53 pm to Tackle74
quote:A villain is not always pure evil.
Either is Edward I in Braveheart, the guy was a great king, I enjoy Braveheart but the story is pretty much about as much Hollywood bullshite as is possible.
Posted on 5/13/15 at 2:03 pm to RollTide1987
I'd say he was a competent leader, but he did kick all of the Jews out of England and though some may boyishly admire his ruthless, strong-arm attitude toward dissent within Britain, it did lead not only to his short term military failure, but created a sense of disunity and resentment for centuries to come.
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