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re: Game Of Thrones S5:E10 "Mother's Mercy" BOOK READER THREAD
Posted on 6/18/15 at 10:42 pm to blueboy
Posted on 6/18/15 at 10:42 pm to blueboy
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quote: Right now, I would say he is the most likely candidate to fight the Mountain in the upcoming Trial by Combat.
Why would Loras fight Strong?
The hound might make more sense from a book reader's perspective, but on the show it seems as if Loras was kept relavent for a reason. He could confess and then fight for the Faith as his penance.
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Posted on 6/18/15 at 10:59 pm to Methuselah
quote:Kettleblack recanted his accusation under duress.
In the books I kind of assumed Margary was innocent and it was not even sure they would proceed against her.
quote:Hound won his freedom by defeating Beric.
Hound v. Dondarion did not IIRC
Posted on 6/18/15 at 11:39 pm to blueboy
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Hound won his freedom by defeating Beric.
I know but IIRC what he was accused of (by Arya) was killing the butcher's boy. And he was guilty of that. So the trial did not accurately reveal his guilt/innocence. Unless the gods bought the "I was acting under orders" defense.
Posted on 6/19/15 at 12:06 am to Methuselah
GARLAN TYRELL
Where the hell is he in the show? He is one of the best sword fighters in Westeros.
Where the hell is he in the show? He is one of the best sword fighters in Westeros.
Posted on 6/19/15 at 12:33 am to Methuselah
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I know but IIRC what he was accused of (by Arya) was killing the butcher's boy. And he was guilty of that. So the trial did not accurately reveal his guilt/innocence. Unless the gods bought the "I was acting under orders" defense.
Well, no shite it doesn't. It never did. Welcome to the chivalric code. Although, in this case, he really was innocent because he was under orders. Still, trial by combat just tests the better fighter.
This post was edited on 6/19/15 at 12:35 am
Posted on 6/19/15 at 4:33 am to blueboy
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Well, no shite it doesn't. It never did. Welcome to the chivalric code.
In Westeros though, especially at this period of time, it is an open question what "magic" or "religion" works and what doesn't. For many things it falls into the "it often works but sometimes in ways that will screw you if you rely on it" axiom. See: Stannis and also see Cersi's actions taken in reaction to Maggie the Frog's fortune telling.
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Although, in this case, he really was innocent because he was under orders. Still, trial by combat just tests the better fighter.
Well if that is the case (but I don't think that makes him innocent), trial by combat would be 3 for 3 unless I'm forgetting some. If it is always accurate Cersi would be in trouble as well as Margary & Loras on the show.
Here's a challenge - name the instances in which "magic" or "religion" have worked in SOI&F. Most but not all are prophecies that come through to some extent or other I think.
Posted on 6/19/15 at 6:07 am to Methuselah
Magic of the Red God works ..... Generally (raise dead, queef killers)
CotF magic protects their hideout, plus their fireballs.
Magic built the wall and keeps it up.
Nights King raises dead.
There is quite a bit of magic/religion that works.
CotF magic protects their hideout, plus their fireballs.
Magic built the wall and keeps it up.
Nights King raises dead.
There is quite a bit of magic/religion that works.
Posted on 6/19/15 at 7:04 am to Sid in Lakeshore
I think its strange that we don't see any magic from the Seven or the Drowned God. The only two religions that seem legit are the Red God and the Old Gods.
Posted on 6/19/15 at 7:09 am to Aubie Spr96
Pretty sure the 7 are very anti magic
Posted on 6/19/15 at 7:21 am to ladytiger118
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I think Margaery could survive her trial and marry Trystane though.
Trystane gonna get killed.
Posted on 6/19/15 at 7:25 am to Aubie Spr96
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I think its strange that we don't see any magic from the Seven or the Drowned God. The only two religions that seem legit are the Red God and the Old Gods.
You could be right about the seven. Now that I think about it, Tyrion's 2nd trial by combat was not accurate. He was innocent of Joffrey's murder but the Mountain beat the Viper under the rules of the contest. I've tried to think of and even google for some magic they've showed but can't come up with any unless you count things like Lancel and probably the Hound being converted and finding peace. Maybe GRRM is saving a show of their magic for a big moment.
I've always attributed Patchface's prophecies to The drowned god because IIRC he changed after he was presumed drowned.
Other presumably non red god and old gods magic that I can think of:
- The house in the land way in the east of Essos where Danny saw the prophecies.
- The blood magic used to hatch the dragon's eggs.
- Probably Maggie the Frog (though I guess it is possible that she is related to the old gods. The lady on the island - ghost on the hill I think she was called - more likely was related to the old gods.
- Oh and I'm pretty sure that stuff the Faceless Men do with those faces contains some magic.
- There are also the glass candles but we really haven't been given much info on them yet.
This post was edited on 6/19/15 at 7:35 am
Posted on 6/19/15 at 11:31 am to Aubie Spr96
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I think its strange that we don't see any magic from the Seven or the Drowned God. The only two religions that seem legit are the Red God and the Old Gods.
Doesn't Aeron bring people back after "drowning"? Or is that just a Westerosi version of CPR?
Posted on 6/19/15 at 1:21 pm to Methuselah
quote:I think it might be GRRM showing how modern religions seek to drive away the magic of the older gods, like Abrahamic faiths sweeping across the globe destroying all of the older religions, ones more associated with earthly supernatural practices.
Maybe GRRM is saving a show of their magic for a big moment.
The maesters are the ones who seek to destroy all magic, and were the true killers of the dragons.
Posted on 6/20/15 at 3:50 am to blueboy
Full Disclosure, this is LucasP's SO posting his thoughts after just watching the last two episodes:
"What the frick was that? Complete disregard for the source material!!! frick everything that just happened on this show. I'll post more disgrunteledness when I get unbanned but frick that shite!!!!"
-Dictated but not read by "Mrs P."
Seriously get him unbanned because I will not continue to do this for his drunk arse.
"What the frick was that? Complete disregard for the source material!!! frick everything that just happened on this show. I'll post more disgrunteledness when I get unbanned but frick that shite!!!!"
-Dictated but not read by "Mrs P."
Seriously get him unbanned because I will not continue to do this for his drunk arse.
Posted on 6/20/15 at 4:13 am to XxDRS
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Full Disclosure, this is LucasP's SO posting his thoughts after just watching the last two episodes:
Pics?
Posted on 6/20/15 at 11:18 am to Byron Bojangles III
Don't forget the baddest living dude across the narrow sea is Jorah. He could be requested by Tyrion or Dany to fight for them if they are captured in Westeros. Jorah would do it for a promise of pardon and to remain to protect the new Queen Dany. Of course, don't also forget that Bronn is no pushover over and would make mincemeat of Loras. We may even eventually see a Bronn vs Hound showdown at some point.
Posted on 6/20/15 at 11:51 am to CE Tiger
The funny thing is that actress has at least 3 other "audition" tapes with that same white painted brick background.
Vimeo page
Maybe it's a casting agent or production company location or something. But it does not look like a GoT exclusive location.
Vimeo page
Maybe it's a casting agent or production company location or something. But it does not look like a GoT exclusive location.
Posted on 6/20/15 at 12:07 pm to Screamer
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Don't forget the baddest living dude across the narrow sea is Jorah. He could be requested by Tyrion or Dany to fight for them if they are captured in Westeros. Jorah would do it for a promise of pardon and to remain to protect the new Queen Dany. Of course, don't also forget that Bronn is no pushover over and would make mincemeat of Loras. We may even eventually see a Bronn vs Hound showdown at some point.
Posted on 6/20/15 at 1:15 pm to XxDRS
What did Lucas get banned for?
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