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re: Game Of Thrones S5:E10 "Mother's Mercy" BOOK READER THREAD
Posted on 6/17/15 at 8:33 pm to Ser Pounce
Posted on 6/17/15 at 8:33 pm to Ser Pounce
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Posted on 6/17/15 at 8:51 pm to Ser Pounce
I like the house Pounce one
Posted on 6/17/15 at 9:22 pm to abellsujr
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Are all of the other story lines in the TV show caught up with the books?
yes. there are some storylines that have been left out, but I truly believe they are just lagniappe and are not necessary to push the story forward. IF there is anything that has been left out, it's catching up the greyjoys, but I really don't see then being a part of the endgame anyways.
Posted on 6/17/15 at 9:40 pm to Ser Pounce
Posted on 6/17/15 at 9:46 pm to iluvdatiger
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yes. there are some storylines that have been left out, but I truly believe they are just lagniappe and are not necessary to push the story forward. IF there is anything that has been left out, it's catching up the greyjoys, but I really don't see then being a part of the endgame anyways.
Supposedly they are casting Euron for next season, so that storyline is still left. Also Sam's time in Oldtown is supposedly up for next season.
Posted on 6/18/15 at 12:05 am to Bamatab
I'm wondering what's going to happen to Loras, since he's either horribly disfugured or dead due to being burned by oil in the books, but is only imprisoned in the show.
Do they keep him in jail and forget him for a while, like so many other characters, or will they use it as some religious gay persecution angle?
Do they keep him in jail and forget him for a while, like so many other characters, or will they use it as some religious gay persecution angle?
Posted on 6/18/15 at 4:14 am to Bamatab
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Supposedly they are casting Euron for next season, so that storyline is still left.
I just hope to gods that if they do an abbreviated version of the kingsmoot on the show, they don't make Theon a serious candidate for king of the iron islands.
Posted on 6/18/15 at 8:36 am to blueboy
Probably the latter. And I think he'll be executed in S6.
I think Margaery could survive her trial and marry Trystane though.
I think Margaery could survive her trial and marry Trystane though.
Posted on 6/18/15 at 8:39 am to Methuselah
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I just hope to gods that if they do an abbreviated version of the kingsmoot on the show, they don't make Theon a serious candidate for king of the iron islands.
I don't see how they have a lot of choice to not abbreviate the kingsmoot unless they just shoehorn the introduction of all of the contenders (besides Asha). Heck, I could see them scaling it down to just being between Euron and Asha. I hope I'm wrong on that though.
Posted on 6/18/15 at 2:32 pm to ladytiger118
quote:Me too. They left us hanging in the books, but we did at least know that his status was not good. But, I guess that's pretty true to human history as well, as people were once executed for buggery. Still - HBO.
Probably the latter. And I think he'll be executed in S6.
quote:Lots of things have to happen before Marge is looking to curse another man with her vows. But, since Tommen is still a little kid in the books, the Tyrells could definitely go on claiming that she's a maid, in the case of his death.
I think Margaery could survive her trial and marry Trystane though.
Posted on 6/18/15 at 3:02 pm to blueboy
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I'm wondering what's going to happen to Loras, since he's either horribly disfugured or dead due to being burned by oil in the books,
I always felt this wasn't true for some reason.
Posted on 6/18/15 at 3:11 pm to blueboy
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I'm wondering what's going to happen to Loras
Right now, I would say he is the most likely candidate to fight the Mountain in the upcoming Trial by Combat.
Posted on 6/18/15 at 3:13 pm to blueboy
Id take a risk to be cursed by Margaery's vows 
Posted on 6/18/15 at 3:23 pm to jrodLSUke
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Right now, I would say he is the most likely candidate to fight the Mountain in the upcoming Trial by Combat.
More likely than monk Sandor?
Seems like if it came down to trial by combat there would be two (maybe 3) separate ones - one for Cersi (FrankenGregor v. MonkSandor), one for Loras (himself v. I dunno who the faith would put up maybe MonkSandor again) and maybe a separate one for Margary.
Posted on 6/18/15 at 3:34 pm to jrodLSUke
quote:Why would Loras fight Strong?
Right now, I would say he is the most likely candidate to fight the Mountain in the upcoming Trial by Combat.
Posted on 6/18/15 at 3:38 pm to blueboy
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Why would Loras fight Strong?
Suicide by Mountain
Posted on 6/18/15 at 3:50 pm to blueboy
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Why would Loras fight Strong?
In theory I guess it would mean that Strong beats whoever is the champion for the Sparrows and then with Cercei freed she uses Zombie Moutain again against Loras (who would be trial by combating for him and his sister) in order to eliminate the young queen from the prophecy in her mind. This would also assume that Kevan is dead and Cercei has regained her regency and influence over Tommen
Seems like a stretch
Posted on 6/18/15 at 4:20 pm to wildtigercat93
AAR was the (fooking) Legend of Gin Alley.
Posted on 6/18/15 at 6:57 pm to wildtigercat93
quote:But the queen is not the one who is accusing Loras. On the show, it's Olyvar and in the books, no one is accusing him. He's wounded or dead.
with Cercei freed she uses Zombie Moutain again against Loras (who would be trial by combating for him and his sister)
The Kettleblacks and Lancel accuse the queen in the books, and it's only Lancel in the show.
Kingsguard only represent the crown when they are a part of a dispute. As far as Loras and Margaery are concerned, this is not an issue.
Posted on 6/18/15 at 10:09 pm to blueboy
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But the queen is not the one who is accusing Loras. On the show, it's Olyvar and in the books, no one is accusing him. He's wounded or dead.
The Kettleblacks and Lancel accuse the queen in the books, and it's only Lancel in the show.
Kingsguard only represent the crown when they are a part of a dispute. As far as Loras and Margaery are concerned, this is not an issue.
I tend to agree with almost all of this. But I don't think we really know what the procedures of the Faith Militant (or whoever the High Sparrow is leader of) is. I'm not sure we even know if they have trial by combat as part of their procedure (but I'm betting they do).
From the books, most people including me suspect that for her challenge Cersi will pick Robert Strong and the Faith will get to pick their champion which is theorized that it will be The Hound in his new religious hermit persona.
In the books I kind of assumed Margary was innocent and it was not even sure they would proceed against her. (Seems like I remember something about the charges being weak. On the show she was definitely guilty of perjury. Which doesn't necessarily mean she would lose a trial by combat (Though Tyrion's both came out accurate to his guilt or innocence, the Hound v. Dondarion did not IIRC).
ETA: On 2nd thought, Tyrion's 2nd test was not accurate since the Viper died first (not sure if the Mountain ever 100% died though it looked like he did).
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