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re: Disney’s “Strange World” Bombs
Posted on 11/27/22 at 4:07 pm to Adam Banks
Posted on 11/27/22 at 4:07 pm to Adam Banks
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does the story suck because they are forcing workism and representation
Mostly this, combined with a lack of creativity.
Undercover Brother was great, even though the antagonists were literally white devils trying to keep the black man down. That's because the Wayans brothers are funny.
Lethal Weapon was great. Murtaugh didn't like the South African government and his younger daughter was boycotting tuna because they killed dolphins. But all of that just fit seamlessly into character development or set up jokes for later in the movie. Again, because the writers had talent.
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Posted on 11/27/22 at 4:16 pm to ell_13
Eventually the powers that be will learn to stop catering to the minuscule percentage that is the “woke”.
Posted on 11/27/22 at 4:16 pm to Froman
Being Woke is totally why it bombed. Disney/Pixar used to be able to put out anything, and it would print money. They have lost the trust that parents had after the whole Lightyear debacle and after their agenda was made public. Yes, the movie looks totally crappy, but that is because you have woke retards in charge.
Posted on 11/27/22 at 4:17 pm to The Eric
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And liberals will scream that we are bigots when we don’t wanna see it and it bombs.
Let them, that’s all they are good at, screaming, crying, sniveling, etc…
Posted on 11/27/22 at 5:06 pm to ell_13
The left is underrating the wokeness of the film and how its affected sales and the right is underrating the lack of marketing of this movie and how it has affected sales.
This movie had barely any marketing, wokeness aside.
This movie had barely any marketing, wokeness aside.
This post was edited on 11/27/22 at 5:23 pm
Posted on 11/27/22 at 5:12 pm to ell_13
To quote Brie Larson - "It wasn't made for you".
And so I won't be watching.
See what happens when you attack fans and disrespect the general public? They don't go see your stuff. And then you fail. Bigly.
Posted on 11/27/22 at 7:59 pm to taylork37
Can’t help but wonder..was the marketing bad because they know if they highlighted what the actual movie was about (woke propaganda) that parents wouldn’t take their kids? Seems to me, Disney rolled the dice in it being a colorful cartoon released by a traditionally trusted studio on a holiday weekend to make money.
They knew what they made, and they know audiences wouldn’t go see it if they were honest about what they made. So here they are, with a horrendous opening weekend. The kicker though is that the movie received good reviews and now they get to play the “the audience are bigots” card.
So in the end it’s a win for wokeness either way. They have the formula and until reviewers and media are honest about the films being released, why would they stop?
They knew what they made, and they know audiences wouldn’t go see it if they were honest about what they made. So here they are, with a horrendous opening weekend. The kicker though is that the movie received good reviews and now they get to play the “the audience are bigots” card.
So in the end it’s a win for wokeness either way. They have the formula and until reviewers and media are honest about the films being released, why would they stop?
Posted on 11/27/22 at 8:46 pm to Kantz
I am not the target audience, I have well for adult thoughts.
This post was edited on 11/27/22 at 8:47 pm
Posted on 11/27/22 at 10:01 pm to ell_13
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Several publications labeled the film a box office bomb, with The Hollywood Reporter saying was "the worst opening for a Disney Animation Thanksgiving title in modern times" and Variety calling it a "catastrophic result for Disney" and projecting it would lose the studio at least $100 million. The poor opening was blamed on poor audience reception, middling critical reviews, and lackluster marketing compared to other Disney animated films.[21][22][23]
Oof.
Posted on 11/28/22 at 5:56 am to ell_13
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Avatar is Pocahontas
And fern gully
This post was edited on 11/28/22 at 5:58 am
Posted on 11/28/22 at 6:12 am to Turbeauxdog
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The other two when forced because "representation matters to bigots" are a problem also.
Honest question that I’ve had to ask myself about this, how do we know “when it’s forced” in the sense that it has ulterior motives?. It’s a movie, everything about it is scripted, forced, manufactured, etc.
It may come with an angle or it may not, I’m just not so sure we can say one way or the other without the production team making some dumb statement saying such, which does tend to happen with these types of things…
Posted on 11/28/22 at 6:41 am to SpaceCamp
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Being Woke is totally why it bombed. Disney/Pixar used to be able to put out anything, and it would print money. They have lost the trust that parents had after the whole Lightyear debacle and after their agenda was made public. Yes, the movie looks totally crappy, but that is because you have woke retards in charge.
Ding ding ding.
We know they are trying to brainwash our kids against what we want to teach the kids. It’s not paranoia. Only people who don’t have kids yet can fail to see this, and instead of just accepting it, they’ll call us names.
Posted on 11/28/22 at 9:07 am to Kantz
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They knew what they made, and they know audiences wouldn’t go see it if they were honest about what they made. So here they are, with a horrendous opening weekend. The kicker though is that the movie received good reviews and now they get to play the “the audience are bigots” card.
So in the end it’s a win for wokeness either way. They have the formula and until reviewers and media are honest about the films being released, why would they stop?
I'm not so sure about that. I agree with you that that's their formula, so to speak. And that they rely on being able to blame "bigots" for failing movies. However, as woke as Disney has become, the most important thing to them is still money. And it always will be. And audiences are finally speaking with their dollars (or lack thereof). So while Disney can pat its chest currently and blame things on bigots, they will have to change their tune eventually or else they will go out of business (so to speak...I realize Disney as an entity isn't really going anywhere). They will be forced to stop funding "woke" stuff simply because audiences aren't going to see it and it won't make money.
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Honest question that I’ve had to ask myself about this, how do we know “when it’s forced” in the sense that it has ulterior motives?. It’s a movie, everything about it is scripted, forced, manufactured, etc.
It may come with an angle or it may not, I’m just not so sure we can say one way or the other without the production team making some dumb statement saying such, which does tend to happen with these types of things…
I agree with that in principle. And on the surface, there isn't anything wrong with, for example, a gay person in a movie. But when it is prevalent in almost everything they put out it becomes apparent what the motives are. And people aren't stupid and will notice. And of course, it doesn't help when the media/Disney is patting itself on the back about it and making a spectacle about it.
Posted on 11/28/22 at 9:33 am to CocomoLSU
Woke Twitter is blaming Disneys lack of advertising. They’re going so far as to say that Disney wanted this movie to fail on purpose so they could show that a gay lead doesn’t sell. They are truly insane. Disney isn’t going to lose $150 million and who knows how much more in stock value because of this movie just as an I-Told-You-So moment for the group of people they’ve been pandering to for almost 5 years now.
Disney dropped the advertising because they knew it was a bomb based on test screenings. Why spend $70 mill more when it would only gain you an extra $5-10 million? Not to mention they couldn’t release it in China or the Middle East and lots of other smaller markets.
Disney dropped the advertising because they knew it was a bomb based on test screenings. Why spend $70 mill more when it would only gain you an extra $5-10 million? Not to mention they couldn’t release it in China or the Middle East and lots of other smaller markets.
Posted on 11/28/22 at 9:39 am to stout
Brianna go into a home run trot after hitting a pop-up to the catcher?
Posted on 11/28/22 at 10:03 am to CocomoLSU
The thing is, parents are IMO dying for entertainment that is broadly in line with their own beliefs or at least neutral.
So we assume that making money is paramount to Disney, but I think we are trying to apply our own common sense to the situation, and I don’t think it applies. If they wanted to make money, they could easily make a killing on movies by just not doing this woke stuff.
Say what you want about a gay teen relationship being fine in principle, it seems clear at this point that parents don’t want to show it to their little kids.
So we assume that making money is paramount to Disney, but I think we are trying to apply our own common sense to the situation, and I don’t think it applies. If they wanted to make money, they could easily make a killing on movies by just not doing this woke stuff.
Say what you want about a gay teen relationship being fine in principle, it seems clear at this point that parents don’t want to show it to their little kids.
Posted on 11/28/22 at 10:16 am to Kantz
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So in the end it’s a win for wokeness either way. They have the formula and until reviewers and media are honest about the films being released, why would they stop?
But at some point money matters. Shareholders aren’t going to put up with studios losing 8-9 figures in the name of wokeness if more traditional and neutral family entertainment is going to print money.
Posted on 11/28/22 at 10:30 am to ell_13
But the beige people!
Posted on 11/28/22 at 10:33 am to taylork37
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This movie had barely any marketing
I can't say I've seen any outside of streaming, but the kids watch a lot of pluto tv and I've seen plenty of ads for this movie on there.
Posted on 11/28/22 at 10:34 am to SouthEasternKaiju
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To quote Brie Larson - "It wasn't made for you".
And so I won't be watching
Eventually this seems like the outcome. Not just the gay or whatever identity politics, more the political leaning of the messaging.
Set aside debating whether the ablist, racist, sexist wing of democrats are the majority of democrats. The messaging is politically affiliated with the left wing of progressive politics.
Centrists, moderate Republicans, and social conservatives may be deciding the political affiliation of the material isn't made for them and should be avoided where possible.
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