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re: Crackpot ASOIAF Theories SPOILERS

Posted on 9/10/15 at 2:22 pm to
Posted by LucasP
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Posted on 9/10/15 at 2:22 pm to
Page 999?!!
Posted by Azazello
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Posted on 9/10/15 at 2:48 pm to
Anyone want to make a bet the fat man won't be done before next Christmas?
Posted by SetTheMood
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Posted on 9/10/15 at 2:54 pm to
I think he's done now. It's the editing process that takes forever.
Posted by Mr. Wayne
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Posted on 9/10/15 at 4:38 pm to
He's done. I'm betting his meeting with editors in August was to turn it in. If we make it through this month without an announcement, I'm saying Feb. release. If announced this month, December. There was about a two month window btw Dance announcement and release if my memory serves. 3 tops.
Posted by FT
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Posted on 9/10/15 at 5:18 pm to
I'm so ready for this book. My reread is fun, but I need to see what happens with Sansa and Stannis so bad.
Posted by putt23
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Posted on 9/10/15 at 5:45 pm to
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but I need to see what happens with Sansa and Stannis so bad.


yep me too.

Do you think once the wall comes down they find Stannis' body and turn him to a WW? At least in the show
Posted by FT
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Posted on 9/10/15 at 6:23 pm to
Maybe in the show. I'm kind of at a loss on predictions, except for two:

I want Daario to be Euron, and I want Clegane Bowl.
Posted by FT
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Posted on 9/10/15 at 6:24 pm to
Also, I may be the only person in the world whose favorite two characters are Sansa and Littlefinger.
Posted by OMLandshark
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Posted on 9/10/15 at 6:28 pm to
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I want Daario to be Euron, and I want Clegane Bowl.


I'm divided on the Daario/Euron theory. I don't think it's going to happen, but I think it would redeem Daario's character instantly.

As for Celgane Bowl, I think it will happen, but not quite yet. I think it would be epic if Robert Strong joined with the Others, and in the final battle, the Hound comes out with a flaming sword and uses it to kill Ser Gregor once and for all. It would be one hell of a karmic death on top of the one Oberyn gave him.
This post was edited on 9/10/15 at 6:29 pm
Posted by FT
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Posted on 9/10/15 at 6:30 pm to
Yeah, Daario kind of sucks. If he's Euron, he's amazing.

And Clegane Bowl, if it happens, will be for Cersei's trial.
Posted by putt23
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Posted on 9/10/15 at 6:33 pm to
I thought Euron was casted already for the show

Clegane bowl is happening!
Posted by SoGaFan
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Posted on 9/10/15 at 6:43 pm to
I am guessing that it will be out next Summer. They won't screw over HBO by releasing it before the next season is complete.
Posted by FT
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Posted on 9/10/15 at 6:54 pm to
You could say they won't screw over Martin by releasing the next season before the next book. This is the last book that'll be released before the end of the series.
Posted by SoGaFan
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Posted on 9/10/15 at 7:15 pm to
The series won't do anything to stop people buying the next book. I can guarantee that. I am only so-so on the series. I just like the storytelling of the books better. However, since HBO and everyone involved keeps telling people how original this upcoming season is going to be, the surprise factor will be important to them, and even if they do things differently than the book, once the next part of the story is told, some of that surprise factor will be lost.
Posted by Methuselah
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Posted on 9/10/15 at 7:15 pm to
Don't look now but some pretty major spoilers are dropping for filming of the Northern storyline. (oh and some "theatre" stuff if you're into that. Read at your own risk:

Spoilers from filming of goings on in the North
This post was edited on 9/10/15 at 7:17 pm
Posted by FT
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Posted on 9/10/15 at 7:22 pm to
OMG the thing about the guy who is gonna do the thing

You know what I mean, too.
Posted by OMLandshark
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Posted on 9/10/15 at 8:40 pm to
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Clegane bowl is happening!



If Clegane Bowl happens for Cersei's trial, I think it would be a bit cheap and not wholly satisfying. Yeah, it's awesome that Sandor definitively kills his brother, but it would give Cersei an anticlimatic death, not to mention the fact that she likely wouldn't live to see her children's deaths.

Catelyn died with the single most heartbreaking thoughts I've ever read, with her last thoughts being her husband loving her hair. Despite me despising her character, I felt very bad for her to going to that point of tragedy and felt numb simply out of her feelings alone. I want Cersei to reach this point, and if the Hound just simply kills her champion, she'll go to her death defiant. The only thing she'll really care about is that Jaime isn't there to go down with her. She can't go down this way. She needs to lose everything she holds dear. First her children, and then Jaime as he murders her. Cersei's death can only be satisfying if Jaime himself does the deed.

I want Sandor to kill Gregor definitively, but there are other instances that this could happen and in much more symbolically satisfying ways for all parties involved.
This post was edited on 9/10/15 at 8:42 pm
Posted by SoGaFan
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Posted on 9/10/15 at 9:28 pm to
Tyrion lost his trial by faith. He is still alive. What makes you think Cersei can't find a way out for a brief time?
Posted by OMLandshark
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Posted on 9/10/15 at 9:57 pm to
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Tyrion lost his trial by faith. He is still alive. What makes you think Cersei can't find a way out for a brief time?



Well, that means she flees, and I want her to stick around King's Landing and try to burn the place to the ground Aerys style.

Plus who is going to rescue her? Qyburn? That's the only one popping into my mind. Jaime at least had every reason to spare Tyrion, and Varys needed Tyrion to get Dany's dragons. No one needs Cersei, and Jaime wants her to suffer. Jaime was her only hope, but now she's screwed.
Posted by blueboy
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Posted on 9/10/15 at 10:00 pm to
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The series won't do anything to stop people buying the next book. I can guarantee that.
Can you? I guess that's why JK Rowling and her publishers were always nazis about the movies trying to precede and spoil the plot of the novels.
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