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re: Crackpot ASOIAF Theories SPOILERS
Posted on 4/29/13 at 11:15 am to Hugo Stiglitz
Posted on 4/29/13 at 11:15 am to Hugo Stiglitz
At this point in time I would agree with Jaime being good. He certainly has taken over for Tyrion in trying to control his family.
I think the chapter when Jaime reads the Kingsguard history book was the definitive shift from him being a grey character to a good character.
My knowledge is fuzzy though. I am beginning a reread.
I think the chapter when Jaime reads the Kingsguard history book was the definitive shift from him being a grey character to a good character.
My knowledge is fuzzy though. I am beginning a reread.
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Posted on 4/29/13 at 11:16 am to Big Lake
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I think the chapter when Jaime reads the Kingsguard history book was the definitive shift from him being a grey character to a good character.
yea it was eye opening to him that up to that point, he had never done anything truly honorable
Posted on 4/29/13 at 11:18 am to Ash Williams
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im pretty sure she just used a random sword or Stannis's sword to "recreate" Lightbringer (in the ceremony where they burned the 7 statues of the gods)
I think the sword is a regular sword glamored by Melisandre.
Posted on 4/29/13 at 11:19 am to Hugo Stiglitz
I definitely wouldn't put Olenna and Margaery under good, and Stannis and Jaime would be under complicated as well. I actually think Olenna may be much more monstrous behind closed doors when merely her family is around her. Think we could get some good interactions between her and Loras in the next book if he becomes a POV character.
And the Brotherhood has certainly gone to complicated, with. Their only mission being to kill as many Freys and Lannisters as humanly possible.
And the Brotherhood has certainly gone to complicated, with. Their only mission being to kill as many Freys and Lannisters as humanly possible.
Posted on 4/29/13 at 11:19 am to Hugo Stiglitz
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I think the sword is a regular sword glamored by Melisandre.
right
When Maester Agon pointed out it didnt give of heat is when i finally realized that Stannis isnt AA
Posted on 4/29/13 at 11:23 am to OMLandshark
Olenna and Brotherhood to complicated.
Margaery, Stannis, and Jaime remain good but borderline.
Margaery, Stannis, and Jaime remain good but borderline.
Posted on 4/29/13 at 11:44 am to Ash Williams
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When Maester Agon pointed out it didnt give of heat is when i finally realized that Stannis isnt AA
Another hint about the sword - not sure if on show or in books or both, but didn't Stannis walk off and leave "Lightbringer" on the beach after the "burning of the Seven"
Been thinking about Lightbringer...IF it turns out to be a sword:
Tobho Mott was the smith who re-forged Ice into the Lannister swords, and claims to be the only one in Westeros who can re-forge V Steel, knows the spells, etc.
He was Gendry's Master...
Did Gendry realize what the words were that Tabho said during the making of Oathkeeper and Widow's Wail? Learn them? I doubt if he was taught out right by Mott, but maybe Mott thought him too slow to pick up the secrets, and didn't bother hiding the process from Gendry...
I wonder if Gendry will have something to do with Lightbringer...it is made of steel, it is said, but not what kind...Dragonsteel kills Others, so...
Or maybe he at least returns Ice to house Stark.
ETA: The red coloring didn't take correctly in the re-forged swords...does this mean Tobho isn't as capable as he makes out to be, and didn't re-forge them correctly (making them faulty)
Or is it more of an indicator that Ice is nothing unless it is complete (the whole more the sum of its parts)
This post was edited on 4/29/13 at 11:48 am
Posted on 4/29/13 at 11:47 am to 19
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Did Gendry realize what the words were that Tabho said during the making of Oathkeeper and Widow's Wail? Learn them? I doubt if he was taught out right by Mott, but maybe Mott thought him too slow to pick up the secrets, and didn't bother hiding the process from Gendry...
Gendry wasn't there for Oathkeeper and Widow's Wail(btw Joff is the worst at naming swords)was he?
Posted on 4/29/13 at 11:48 am to 19
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Or maybe he at least returns Ice to house Stark.
If Rickon eventually becomes Lord of Winterfell (which i think will be what happens), i'd like to see Gendry or someone combine the 2 Lannister swords back into Ice and it be presented to Rickon
Posted on 4/29/13 at 11:51 am to Ash Williams
Although I'd like to see them return Ice, I think the two swords are more significant than we know.
Ice is also a terrible name for a sword.
Ice is also a terrible name for a sword.
Posted on 4/29/13 at 11:53 am to Big Lake
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Although I'd like to see them return Ice, I think the two swords are more significant than we know.
Ice is also a terrible name for a sword.
I bet Widow's Wail is a cursed sword. Whoever is the owner dies. Ned's Revenge.
Posted on 4/29/13 at 11:59 am to BloodSweat&Beers
Here is a theory. UnCat gets a hold of Widow's Wail and kills someone significant with it.
Posted on 4/29/13 at 12:02 pm to BloodSweat&Beers
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Ice
W/e I thought it was cool.
Posted on 4/29/13 at 12:07 pm to Big Lake
I know he was there up to Ned's execution/ possibly a few days/week after...it would be close.
Unless, of course, either Tobho re-forged V Steel for someone else previously (unlikely) or he flat out trained Gendry on how to do it (even less likely)
Best option for this thy is Gendry was still there for Ice's re-forging or...bust.
Unless, of course, either Tobho re-forged V Steel for someone else previously (unlikely) or he flat out trained Gendry on how to do it (even less likely)
Best option for this thy is Gendry was still there for Ice's re-forging or...bust.
Posted on 4/29/13 at 12:10 pm to 19
Payne used Ice on Ned. Gendry was long gone by the time it was melted down
Posted on 4/29/13 at 12:11 pm to BloodSweat&Beers
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I bet Widow's Wail is a cursed sword. Whoever is the owner dies. Ned's Revenge
Oathkeeper fared well for Brienne, in her limited use of it...WW has yet to be battle tested.
I hope it doesn't fail poor Tommen.
He's a pitiful lil kitty-pettin gentle soul.
Posted on 4/29/13 at 12:13 pm to Big Lake
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Here is a theory. UnCat gets a hold of Widow's Wail and kills someone significant with it.
Who is most likely to get Widow's Wail?
Possibly one of the Kettleblacks (Osmund most likely)
Where are they possibly headed?
The Wall
They could get ambushed by Uncat on the way.
It's possible
This post was edited on 4/29/13 at 12:14 pm
Posted on 4/29/13 at 12:14 pm to 19
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He's a pitiful lil kitty-pettin gentle soul.
Tommen should be the one to kill Cersei.
Posted on 4/29/13 at 12:20 pm to Big Lake
quote:my latest creation
Ice is also a terrible name for a sword.
Posted on 4/29/13 at 12:22 pm to manwich
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