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re: Bryan Singer Announces X-Men: Apocalypse Film for 2016

Posted on 12/6/13 at 11:14 am to
Posted by teke184
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Member since Jan 2007
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Posted on 12/6/13 at 11:14 am to
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What was Sinisters actual power?


IIRC he is a geneticist who has fricked around with his own genetic code to the point where he has a lot of power and is near-immortal.

At one point, the only X-Men able to damage him were Cyclops and Havok due to something weird in the Summers' genetic line.
Posted by Murray
Member since Aug 2008
14430 posts
Posted on 12/6/13 at 11:35 am to
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the only X-Men able to damage him were Cyclops and Havok due to something weird in the Summers' genetic line


Posted by Mick Shrimpton
Baton Rouge
Member since Feb 2013
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Posted on 12/6/13 at 12:13 pm to
A little background info on Apocalypse and the story arcs he's connected too.

IGN discusses Bryan Singer tweet, and possible Apocalypse tie in to DOFP

Apocalypse Wiki

Age of Apocalypse Wiki

Anyone looking to distract themselves from work today should be able to do so now...
Posted by ATLTiger
#TreyBiletnikoffs
Member since Sep 2003
44587 posts
Posted on 12/6/13 at 1:38 pm to
earlier I was thinking fixing the past averts the Sentinel takeover future, but in its place we get a modified AoA future.

interestingly, this was already done in that Wolverine and the X-men cartoon.

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The series Wolverine and the X-Men has a similar storyline, where Professor X is in a coma for 20 years, and awakens to find that the mutants are imprisoned by the Sentinels. He telepathically connects with the X-Men of the past to try to prevent that future from happening. By the end of the first season, the Sentinel-dominated future was averted. However, a future based on the Age of Apocalypse appeared in its place.



dofp on wiki
Posted by Murray
Member since Aug 2008
14430 posts
Posted on 12/6/13 at 1:41 pm to
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By the end of the first season, the Sentinel-dominated future was averted. However, a future based on the Age of Apocalypse appeared in its place.


This would interest me. AOA was a great story.
Posted by BOSCEAUX
Where the Down Boys go.
Member since Mar 2008
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Posted on 12/6/13 at 2:59 pm to
I just read the AoA wiki and my memory got jogged that I had actually read a lot of that back in the day. Cable needs to make an appearance in one of these movies, he was a bad arse.
Posted by JasonMason
Memphis
Member since Jun 2009
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Posted on 12/6/13 at 3:35 pm to
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this was already done in that Wolverine and the X-men cartoon.


The sad thing about this is the show was canned before they got to get into AoA. That was a good show.
Posted by RonBurgundy
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Member since Oct 2005
13302 posts
Posted on 12/6/13 at 3:39 pm to
Personally, I'd like the more modern story of X-men to be on screen:

Prof. X is a dick and a pedophile
Wolverine is hypocrite
Cyclops is right.






but freaux is right about what Singer has done to the universe, it hasn't done the X-Men justice. This movie has a lot to correct, but I have a feeling it wont.
Posted by Rittdog
Yesterday, all my troubles seemed
Member since Oct 2009
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Posted on 12/6/13 at 3:47 pm to
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This arc should have been TWO movies anyways,


And there is the problem.

It wont which means a lot of characters are there for decoration.
Posted by Mick Shrimpton
Baton Rouge
Member since Feb 2013
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Posted on 12/6/13 at 3:48 pm to
Yeah AoA basically flips the mutant genocide from DoFP into human genocide conducted by Apocalypse. I wouldn't be surprised if after incorporating time travel we start to see a few alternate realities. Hopefully AoA will be one.


And to all the Bryan Singer doubt...I say reserve judgement until DoFP. Singer was one of the first to really make solid comic to big screen adaptations.

Now that we have directors like Nolan and Whedon really elevating the "comic book movie", lets see if Singer can keep up.
Posted by ATLTiger
#TreyBiletnikoffs
Member since Sep 2003
44587 posts
Posted on 12/6/13 at 4:37 pm to
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The sad thing about this is the show was canned before they got to get into AoA. That was a good show.



yep. I caught a couple episodes when it initially aired, need to watch the whole thing on Netflix.
Posted by Freauxzen
Utah
Member since Feb 2006
37428 posts
Posted on 12/6/13 at 4:42 pm to
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And to all the Bryan Singer doubt...I say reserve judgement until DoFP. Singer was one of the first to really make solid comic to big screen adaptations.

Now that we have directors like Nolan and Whedon really elevating the "comic book movie", lets see if Singer can keep up.


I have no doubt that he's a competent filmmaker and will make a solid, entertaining film. I almost have 0 doubts in that regard.

But he's already made terrible mistakes, as has Fox so it isn't totally on his soldiers, that there's no coming back from without some kind of time line wipe or shift.

As an X-Men fan, Singer sucks.

This post was edited on 12/6/13 at 4:43 pm
Posted by STEVED00
Member since May 2007
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Posted on 12/6/13 at 5:34 pm to
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But he's already made terrible mistakes, as has Fox so it isn't totally on his soldiers, that there's no coming back from without some kind of time line wipe or shift. As an X-Men fan, Singer sucks.


For the non-comic nerds out there, what screw ups has he made? I assume its more than Wolverine being cast to look nothing like he does in the comics. I will hang up and listen.
This post was edited on 12/6/13 at 5:36 pm
Posted by alajones
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Member since Oct 2005
34521 posts
Posted on 12/6/13 at 5:39 pm to
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because he completely bastardized the characters.
So if you are a comic book nerd, you hate his movies. Can't they just be good movies on their own without having to live up to fanboy expectations?
Posted by alajones
Huntsvegas
Member since Oct 2005
34521 posts
Posted on 12/6/13 at 5:43 pm to
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I'd have hope then, but Singer's treatment of Cyclops doesn't make me think that's likely at all.
X3 wasn't directed by Singer and that is what really messed shite up.
Posted by RonBurgundy
Whale's Vagina(San Diego)
Member since Oct 2005
13302 posts
Posted on 12/6/13 at 5:47 pm to
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For the non-comic nerds out there, what screw ups has he made? I assume its more than Wolverine being cast to look nothing like he does in the comics. I will hang up and listen.



I don't think comic nerds have a huge issue with Jackman being cast as Wolverine, but as a whole, he's relegated an esememble cast as background characters. Halle Berry (whom I dont think is a great actress,but regardless), James Marsden (miscast,but an underrated actor), Patrick Stewart , Rebecca Romijn, Ellen Page, Anna Paquin, Alan Cummings,Shawn Ashmore had no character arcs. The first two X movies which I enjoyed, were really "The Adventures of Wolverine"

I like Wolverine as character, he's great as solo act and he's great in the larger Marvel Universe. In X-Men he's best when he is sharing the limelight or in the background. Cyclops, Storm and Beast are all just as or more important X-Men than Logan.

X-Men is a team concept, the films should reflect that better.
Posted by Murray
Member since Aug 2008
14430 posts
Posted on 12/6/13 at 5:48 pm to
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So if you are a comic book nerd, you hate his movies. Can't they just be good movies on their own without having to live up to fanboy expectations?


Sure they can. I liked First Class just as much as you illiterate pukes.
Posted by RonBurgundy
Whale's Vagina(San Diego)
Member since Oct 2005
13302 posts
Posted on 12/6/13 at 5:49 pm to
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X3 wasn't directed by Singer and that is what really messed shite up.



X2 was a directed by Singer and Cyclops-again the main character in X-Men, was barely in the film.
Posted by Murray
Member since Aug 2008
14430 posts
Posted on 12/6/13 at 6:01 pm to
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RonBurgundy



Ron, check out this rumor I saw earlier about the post credit DoFP scene that leads into X:Apocalypse..

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Erik Lehnsherr… in a ramshackle house in the desert eating dinner, clearly on the run from all the authorities who want to bring him down. While using a well outside to get some water, the young Magneto sees something fall from the night sky and crash to Earth nearby. Upon inspecting the impact zone, he encounters what is described as an “alien form” who is “towering, terrifying, with a twisted metal face and dark pits for eyes.” It’s Apocalypse and he says, “I have crossed rivers of time to find you.” Magneto asks, “Who are you?”

The alien responds, “I am your future.” Suddenly Apocalypse merges with Magneto, who screams and blasts an insane amount of energy and shockwaves around him. This energy explosion levels everything around him, with a blast radius that goes for miles. As Magneto looks at what he’s done, he has a realization of the power he now holds and a villainous grin begins to form before the film cuts to black.






Thankfully, I seriously doubt there's any validity to this at all.
Posted by xenythx
Member since Dec 2007
32433 posts
Posted on 12/6/13 at 6:16 pm to
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Sure they can. I liked First Class just as much as you illiterate pukes.


First Class is a great movie and the characterization of Magneto and Charles were great, but Vaughn otherwise had the benefit of only having to deal with some of the lesser known characters in the X-Men universe unlike Singer who had to juggle some of the most iconic ones and give them all their due screen time and storytelling while moving the plot along.

Singer might have messed up a few of the characters like Cyclops and Storm, but he also nailed some of them. Singer's characterization of Magneto is pretty damn awesome, especially when you think about how no one would have thought in a million years to cast Ian McKellen as Magneto.
This post was edited on 12/6/13 at 6:18 pm
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