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re: Bryan Singer Announces X-Men: Apocalypse Film for 2016
Posted on 12/6/13 at 7:53 am to Mikes My Tiger
Posted on 12/6/13 at 7:53 am to Mikes My Tiger
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Singer's two Xmen movies are two of the best comic movies ever. I don't get all the hate.
I'll agree. But the effects of those two films has been a weak world carried by only one halfway interesting character.
He hasn't served the X-Men justice despite the quality of the films. The only characters that get a real arc are Wolverine and...Magneto, and only if you count First Class, which isn't his film. Everyone else is cookie cutter, Jean Sort of gets one, sort of, but only in relation to Wolverine.
He personally neutered Cyclops, Storm, Iceman, Nightcrawler, Professor X, Colossus, Sabertooth, and a host of others. By leaving he allowed Angel, Calypso, Juggernaut, Shadowcat, etc. to all be shite on as well.
Vaughn fixed most of this, and I don't know the reason for his departure, but now we're going to get a movie soaked in Singer;s devaluation of characters outside of Wolverine. Oh boy. Who is a great character, and he's done some good cinematic things with, but he still the only completely fleshed out character.
And I'll be honest, I love the Avengers just as much as X-Men, but the X-Men often had the more meaningful stories and great characters behind them and we haven't seen any of them.
My reaction to Singer has less to do with his ability to direct and more to do with the world he's created. It's a disservice to the X-Men, and UNLESS they fix it with a time wipe in this film, bring Cylops back with a new actor, fix the focus on Wolverine, and build some credible story lines, it's not going to be very good for an X-Men story. This arc should have been TWO movies anyways, and at least to make it the best it can be.
If he destroys his own world in this film, I'll have hope. It's the right thing to do. Jackman can't play Wolverine for much longer. If he doesn't, and especially if he affects Vaughn's contribution, then all of the above will be confirmed.
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Posted on 12/6/13 at 8:43 am to Freauxzen
X:Apocalypse will be direct sequel to Future Past with much of same cast
I think most average viewers don't realize that the source material(comics) isn't "Wolverine and his X-pals".
Everyone is missing out on so much with Singer focusing on Wolverine and misusing so much of the other characters.
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He personally neutered Cyclops, Storm, Iceman, Nightcrawler, Professor X, Colossus, Sabertooth, and a host of others. By leaving he allowed Angel, Calypso, Juggernaut, Shadowcat, etc. to all be shite on as well.
I think most average viewers don't realize that the source material(comics) isn't "Wolverine and his X-pals".
Everyone is missing out on so much with Singer focusing on Wolverine and misusing so much of the other characters.
Posted on 12/6/13 at 8:51 am to Murray
HELL YES.
Apocalypse is the Thanos of the X-MEN.
I've been wanting Apocalypse on screen since I was a kid.
Apocalypse is the Thanos of the X-MEN.
I've been wanting Apocalypse on screen since I was a kid.
Posted on 12/6/13 at 9:12 am to Murray
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I think most average viewers don't realize that the source material(comics) isn't "Wolverine and his X-pals".
To be fair, it does BECOME that during the temporary death of PX and the fall of Cyclops. But that Wolverine is much different than the screen Wolverine.
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Everyone is missing out on so much with Singer focusing on Wolverine and misusing so much of the other characters.
Yup. Storm is a GODDESS, not juts a lightning rod. Iceman is one of the most powerful human-mutants on the planet, he's also clearly the funniest X-Man who's been turned into an emo-snot. Shadowcat is maybe the most interesting X-Man of all time, and that's including Wolverine. Cyclops' arc is Shakespearean in nature. Nightcrawler? Gambit (why he's been completely ignored is beyond me, and I'm not counting Riggins).
And we never got Sinister, more so than Magneto, one of the most interesting X-Villains there is, directly related to the overall idea of "difference" that permeates the entire X-Universe.
Posted on 12/6/13 at 9:25 am to Murray
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I think most average viewers don't realize that the source material(comics) isn't "Wolverine and his X-pals".
Yeah. Wolverine is by far the most popular so that's what you will get for the most part. As for those saying his two x-men movies were two of the best comic movies ever.....really? I don't think they are bad movies by any means. I enjoy them, but they aren't close to being two of the best ever.
Posted on 12/6/13 at 9:28 am to Freauxzen
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And we never got Sinister
I remember him briefly from the cartoons, what was his deal? He seemed almost like a demon or something. I never read the comics much but wasn't Rogue really fricking powerful in the comics, I remember she could fly in the cartoon.
Posted on 12/6/13 at 9:29 am to F machine
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but they aren't close to being two of the best ever.
X-2 is definitely in my top 5.
Posted on 12/6/13 at 9:37 am to BOSCEAUX
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I remember him briefly from the cartoons, what was his deal? He seemed almost like a demon or something.
He views genetic mutation as an art and seeks to remake the world in his image.
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I never read the comics much but wasn't Rogue really fricking powerful in the comics, I remember she could fly in the cartoon.
One of the most powerful, her super strength and flight come from he sucking the power (and almost life) from Ms. Marvel early on in her mutant career.
This post was edited on 12/6/13 at 9:39 am
Posted on 12/6/13 at 9:41 am to Murray
frick this shite. Apocalypse without Cyclops? frick
Posted on 12/6/13 at 9:42 am to alexman
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frick this shite. Apocalypse without Cyclops? frick
Yarp. Believe it.
Posted on 12/6/13 at 9:46 am to Freauxzen
What comic was that twit Jubilee in, she shot like rainbows out of her arse or some shite. Who is shadowcat, is that who Juno was in X-3?
Posted on 12/6/13 at 9:48 am to BOSCEAUX
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What comic was that twit Jubilee in, she shot like rainbows out of her arse or some shite.
Fireworks.She shoots fireworks. She came out in the 90's X-Men series which was Vol. 3 I believe.
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Who is shadowcat, is that who Juno was in X-3?
Precisely, better known as Kitty Pryde. Then Shadowcat. Then Kitty Pryde again. Then Shadowcat again.
Posted on 12/6/13 at 10:01 am to Freauxzen
What was Sinisters actual power?
Posted on 12/6/13 at 10:03 am to Freauxzen
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She came out in the 90's X-Men series which was Vol. 3 I believe.
I read a few issues of that, I think it was called Generation X or something, it was mostly teenage mutants, it kind of sucked.
Posted on 12/6/13 at 10:05 am to Murray
I really wish they just rebooted it completely with First Class. I'll hold off judgement until the final product, but I still think that would have been the best direction for the franchise.
Posted on 12/6/13 at 10:08 am to BOSCEAUX
A genius, superhuman who made himself powerful, so he's technically not a mutant. He sometimes kills mutants to take their powers through genetic manipulation. He clones himself, uses science mixed with mutations to wreak havock on the X-Men.
And he does it while being a pretentious douche, he's kind of fun and doesn't take the world seriously.
And he does it while being a pretentious douche, he's kind of fun and doesn't take the world seriously.
This post was edited on 12/6/13 at 10:10 am
Posted on 12/6/13 at 10:09 am to BOSCEAUX
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I read a few issues of that, I think it was called Generation X or something, it was mostly teenage mutants, it kind of sucked.
Gen-X was post-Jubilee actually, it came about because Jubilee kind of sucked, but they wanted a grundgy teenage vibe.
Many of the Gen-Xers were much better, including Chamber who was around for a long time.
Posted on 12/6/13 at 10:19 am to alexman
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Apocalypse without Cyclops?
there's gotta be a way to fix that. maybe by changing the past in DOFP, they reboot the timeline, X3 doesn't happen, and Scott lives. at least that's what I'm hoping for.
Posted on 12/6/13 at 10:24 am to ATLTiger
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there's gotta be a way to fix that. maybe by changing the past in DOFP, they reboot the timeline, X3 doesn't happen, and Scott lives. at least that's what I'm hoping for.
I'd have hope then, but Singer's treatment of Cyclops doesn't make me think that's likely at all.
Posted on 12/6/13 at 10:24 am to ATLTiger
I agree that the main issue here is that with Singer the studio is trying to shoehorn in the old cast into what otherwise looked like a promising franchise that stood on its own in First Class.
But I thought Singer made two very good X-Men movies. The overexposure of the Wolverine character wasn't really his fault.
You have to remember that Singer made his films right at the beginning of the comic book film boom. In fact, how well-made his first film was in terms of storytelling and handling an ensemble cast of characters probably lead to other studios seeing that these properties could be translated to film properly.
But I thought Singer made two very good X-Men movies. The overexposure of the Wolverine character wasn't really his fault.
You have to remember that Singer made his films right at the beginning of the comic book film boom. In fact, how well-made his first film was in terms of storytelling and handling an ensemble cast of characters probably lead to other studios seeing that these properties could be translated to film properly.
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