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re: Biggest betrayal in a movie?

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Posted by DelU249
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Posted on 5/26/16 at 11:06 am to
lando mothafrickin calrissian

not only does he betray all of his friends and strike a deal with vader...then he breaks that deal and pulls the reverse double cross

love me some lando
Posted by PortCityTiger24
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Posted on 5/26/16 at 11:21 am to
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President: You just said the bomb... is in the puck?
Michael and Samuel together: Yes.
President: Is that where you hid the bomb Goldenface?
Goldenface: [walks into the Oval Office with an accomplice, Troy]
Samuel: But why would you blow up the stadium? You OWN the stadium!
Michael: For the insurance money! I knew it all along!


Posted by SnoopALoop
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Posted on 5/26/16 at 11:24 am to
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PortCityTiger24


Posted by CadesCove
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Posted on 5/26/16 at 11:33 am to
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Translation: Robert the Bruce was a wimp and shitty leader who let his father dominate his life with underhanded politics.


He knew. His father even says it when he confronts him. He was just conflicted and didn't like the politics. Of course, this has absolutely nothing to do with how it all went down in real life.
Posted by meeple
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Posted on 5/26/16 at 11:36 am to
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Anakin Skywalker is the only answer.

No, he's not. He was tricked into going to the dark side, so much that most of it was not his own doing. Therefore the betrayal factor here is pretty low.
Posted by DelU249
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Posted on 5/26/16 at 11:45 am to
he's an evil a-hole from the start. So from the audience's perspective it's not a huge betrayal. Of course the guy who slaughters women and children and constantly complains about the Jedi, a group by whom he's constantly marginalized, will turn on them. Plus they suspected "grave danger" from the outset. Yoda is counseling the guy and he looks deranged and clearly harbors major resentment against the Jedi. All the characters are so stupid they don't see it coming, but logically they should've seen it a mile away.

So all in all, it's not a big betrayal IMO.



This post was edited on 5/26/16 at 12:45 pm
Posted by madmaxvol
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Posted on 5/26/16 at 11:46 am to
Ralphie saying that he learned the F--- word from Schwartz.

Posted by DelU249
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Posted on 5/26/16 at 11:47 am to
that's great. It always sticks out to me that ralphie is such a POS

the entire movie he both successfully and unsuccessfully utilizes manipulation and deceit. frick that guy
Posted by beaverfever
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Posted on 5/26/16 at 12:36 pm to
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Another one is Resevoir Dogs. Roth's character shouldn't have of said anything. One of the few times its best not to tell the truth.
I always thought that was a dick move as well.
Posted by Roaad
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Posted on 5/26/16 at 12:44 pm to
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Biggest betrayal in a movie?
Keri Russell in The Curve
Posted by Peazey
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Posted on 5/26/16 at 12:57 pm to
Hill had already been turned on by his "friends." His "friends" were trying to kill him.
Posted by Capital Cajun
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Posted on 5/26/16 at 1:08 pm to
When Pachanga set up Carlito Brigante by letting Benny Blanco know where he was going to meet Gail.

Pachanga got his anyway but he and Carlito were tight.
Posted by Tigertown in ATL
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Posted on 5/26/16 at 1:15 pm to
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SnoopALoop


yup
Posted by GoldenGuy
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Posted on 5/26/16 at 1:33 pm to
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evil a-hole from the start. So from the audience's perspective it's not a huge betrayal. Of course the guy who slaughters women and children and constantly complains about the Jedi, a group by whom he's constantly marginalized, will turn on them. Plus they suspected "grave danger" from the outset. Yoda is counseling the guy and he looks deranged and clearly harbors major resentment against the Jedi. All the characters are so stupid they don't see it coming, but logically they should've seen it a mile away.

So all in all, it's not a big betrayal IMO.


What about when he chucked the emperor?
Posted by mizzoubuckeyeiowa
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Posted on 5/26/16 at 1:37 pm to
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Lando - Empire Strikes Back


That's not that big a deal. It wasn't even really betrayal.

So they were casual friends?

The Empire had just landed its might in Lando's backyard and on his house...what was he supposed to do? Do some sign language to Han because they once pinkie-swore at summer camp? It's not like they were family and Lando went out of his way to betray.

It was betray or be killed.
This post was edited on 5/26/16 at 1:38 pm
Posted by ManBearTiger
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Posted on 5/26/16 at 1:40 pm to
Ulysses Everett McGill: Pete's cousin turned us in for the bounty.
Pete: The hell you say! Wash is kin!
Washington Hogwallop: Sorry, Pete, I know we're kin, but they got this depression on. I got to do for me and mine.
Pete: I'm gonna kill you, Judas Iscariot Hogwallop!
Posted by ManBearTiger
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Posted on 5/26/16 at 1:41 pm to
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Joe Pantoliano in The Matrix



This is my real answer. I mean he literally tried to sell humanity down the river.
Posted by madmaxvol
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Posted on 5/26/16 at 1:47 pm to
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Ulysses Everett McGill: Pete's cousin turned us in for the bounty.
Pete: The hell you say! Wash is kin!
Washington Hogwallop: Sorry, Pete, I know we're kin, but they got this depression on. I got to do for me and mine.
Pete: I'm gonna kill you, Judas Iscariot Hogwallop!



Of course the biggest betrayal was Everett getting them to escape under false pretenses in the fist place.
Posted by Soul Gleaux
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Posted on 5/26/16 at 2:07 pm to
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Walder Frey & Roose Bolton

The Umbers betrayal is way more of a shocker than either of these.
Posted by Honest Tune
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Posted on 5/26/16 at 2:29 pm to
Tony Montana shooting Manny always pissed me off. Of course, he was porking his kid sister, but he was a great guy and friend to Tony.
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