re: Arrow: Season 3 Thread

Holy shite!

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When The CW decided to bring a DC Comics hero to TV audiences, some doubted the staying power of a solo Green Arrow adventure. Despite that, Arrow has proven to be more than just a weekly comic romp, but the first in a shared universe of DC Comics heroes. Arrow soon spawned The Flash, and there are already rumblings of additional spinoffs or even a possible link to CBS’ Supergirl.

But some of the fan base has set their sights even higher, hoping to see Team Arrow member John Diggle (played by David Ramsey) take up the mantle of Green Lantern, given his character’s similarities to John Stewart, the comic hero most well-known to younger audiences. It might have seemed like a pipe dream, but now the actor himself confirms that the showrunners are “considering it.”

The very notion may seem a bit strange to casual comic fans, so allow us to start at the beginning. When Oliver Queen (Stephen Amell) was first saddled with his new bodyguard, John Diggle (“Dig” to his friends), it didn’t take long for the soft-spoken, imposing character to become a fan-favorite. But as his military service, fearless devotion to his deceased brother – and later, his wife and child – became more prominent, the question of whether John could really be John Stewart was raised.

As the successor to Hal Jordan as a member of the Green Lantern Corps in the comics and animated Justice League universe, Stewart shared a similar military past. And with Diggle’s middle name still a mystery, fans started to connect the dots, predicting a potentially massive twist in the works.
It seemed like nothing more than wishful thinking - Green Lantern on the small screen? – but when directly asked by ComicBook.com about the rumor, Ramsey gives a shocking response:

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“Is John Diggle John Stewart? I cannot say “yes,” and I cannot say, “no.” I’m serious! I do know that there is serious discussion about whether or not this guy becomes John Stewart. But, I mean, I’ll say this: it is top secret. I’ve asked them and they’re like, “we’re working on some stuff.” If that’s the case, it’s gonna be huge. This is the stuff they want to avoid. I think they don’t want anybody to know yet and they haven’t even told me. But they have told me that they are thinking about it and that they are considering it. But they’re not going to release anything yet. That’s exactly what they told me. Greg Berlanti told me that. Andrew [Kreisberg] and Marc [Guggenheim] have told me that. I haven’t spoken to Geoff Johns about it. But that’s the word from people directly involved in Arrow- that they’re working on something.

“Here’s the truth of it: if I knew, I would tell you I know the answer to that, but I’m not at liberty to tell you that. I would answer like that. I probably wouldn’t tell you anyway, but I would at least tell you that I know. I honestly do not know.”

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It may be difficult to truly grasp (and hopefully, Ramsey hasn’t landed himself in hot water for admitting) that the executive producers of both Arrow and The Flash have not only heard of the rumors, but are seemingly weighing their potential. For now, it sounds less like online sleuths uncovering the team’s real plan for Diggle, and more like a popular fan theory being given its due consideration.

Arrow John Diggle Green Lantern Rumor Arrow: Diggle Actor Confirms Green Lantern Talks Happening

It’s worth pointing out that when the announcement of Brandon Routh’s ‘Atom’ and Robbie Amell’s ‘Firestorm’ were made months ago, Arrow star (and DC Comics TV spokesperson) Stephen Amell expressed his own belief that The CW was “creating a Justice League on TV.” During that same discussion, Amell was also asked which DC hero would be his next choice to be adapted:

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“Now, boy we’ve referenced Ferris Air a lot. It would be really cool to have Green Lantern. Hopefully, that happens. I have no inside information, unless I do.”

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Normally, those comments would be tossed aside, given the special effects challenges and mythology changes needed to accommodate a hero like Green Lantern in Arrow‘s universe. But there’s no denying how much The Flash has changed the game, adding metahuman fantasy to the mix (and Supergirl set to follow its lead). Some might scoff at the idea altogether, believing that Arrow fans love the show’s grounded approach for a reason – but even the showrunners have softened their stance on superpowers following the wildly-successful Arrow/Flash crossover.



Given the established division between DC’s movie and TV universes, these ‘discussions’ may or may not have an impact on Tyrese Gibson’s current attempts to play Stewart in Justice League.

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Though it’s all just talk at this point (as far as we and Ramsey know), the actor is ready to tackle the part, should the writers and network give him the nod:

“I love John Stewart…To answer your question: if Diggle become John Stewart, I would be honored to be playing that character. Honored. The same way that I am honored that John Diggle is now a part of the DC canon. That’s just an incredible honor to me. I would love it because I think that he’s an awesome character. I would love to sink my teeth into it. I don’t know how it would fit into the Arrow Universe, because the Arrow Universe is so rooted in kind of grounded reality… however real people with a bow and arrow can be. I don’t know how a thought-based weapon fits into that world. I don’t know how that fits into Arrow, but yes, to answer that question I would love to play the character.”

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The CW should stand for Comic-Book World

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The CW should stand for Comic World

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I didn't read the comics but have a question about Wildcat. Was he in the comics or was that just made up by the writers?

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Sorry, I just now saw your post. He was an old school comic book character. He was a member of the Justice Society (which was basically the precursor to the Justice League). He actually trained Black Canary in the comics.

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I don't mind some crossover, but the supernatural stuff just makes the show into something different.

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I think that ship sailed last season with the marakuru infused superhumans. Throw in they've already introduced Flash, Firestorm, every other meta-human on The Flash, about to introduce The Atom, and a man that should be over 60 or 70 years old yet looks 40; and I don't think they can put that genie back in the bottle.

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I think that ship sailed last season with the marakuru infused superhumans. Throw in they've already introduced Flash, Firestorm, every other meta-human on The Flash, about to introduce The Atom, and a man that should be over 60 or 70 years old yet looks 40; and I don't think they can put that genie back in the bottle.

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The merakuru stuff was kind of acceptable, as it was somewhat science based and the guys were not supernaturally strong. Just amped them up and dulled their sense of pain. The Flash stuff hasn't really been on the Arrow show that much and it has a decent explanation that isn't other worldly. I don't really watch Flash, so I can't speak to the other stuff..

I get that a lot of things will bend or stretch reality. It is a TV show and sci-fi fantasy. But they have straddled the line really well and haven't gone full blown super power show. I hope they don't. In that world, Oliver is a bit player and his story isn't that intriguing. I'd rather it stay about him and normal people. That's why I'm kind of leery about Palmer's whole story and trying to spin off or cut the show in two. It just takes time away from the story I would rather see..

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the guys were not supernaturally strong. Just amped them up and dulled their sense of pain.

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They definitely had super-strength (also practically couldn't be killed). You may want to go back and rewatch some of those episodes, especially the one that introduced Barry Allen where Cyrus Gold single handedly tore down a huge metal warehouse door and walked out with an industrial size centrifuge by himself.

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and then "brought back to life, with mysticism and herbs routine",, pretty lame, would have made far more sense to use another merikuru thread here.

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Actually they had the best and easiest route to go and for some reason balked at it. They should've just introduced the Lazarus pits and everyone (both comic readers and non-readers) would've liked it.

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like the idea that the worlds greatest assassin failed to administer a lethal blow

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I'm wondering if this leads into Ra's not killing Ollie in order to draw Malcolm into it