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Another Star Wars: Doesn't episode 7 nullify Anakin/Vader as "The Chosen One" ?
Posted on 1/12/17 at 1:26 am
Posted on 1/12/17 at 1:26 am
Remember the prophecy that Anakin was the chosen one? Conceived by the force etc., etc., and he was the one meant to bring balance to the force and destroy the sith. As it turns out, despite his turn to the dark side he still destroyed the sith (threw darth sidious down into the shaft will being hit with force lightning), and with that he fulfilled he destiny at "The Chosen One". George Lucas confirmed that exactly.
Now that there are obviously still "sith" running around in episode 7, doesn't that mean Anakin never truly destroyed all of the Sith?
Now that there are obviously still "sith" running around in episode 7, doesn't that mean Anakin never truly destroyed all of the Sith?
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Posted on 1/12/17 at 1:35 am to tiggerthetooth
I thought the prophesy of the chosen one was only "to bring balance to the force". Issue was the Jedi misinterpreted that as meaning destroy the Sith when in actuality it just meant Balance
Posted on 1/12/17 at 1:39 am to tiggerthetooth
well, I think when JJ Abrams was asked this a couple years ago he said they were not sith just users of the dark side of the force.
Posted on 1/12/17 at 6:05 am to saintsfan92612
If JJ goes with the dumbass Avatar the Last Airbender storyline that has been posted on the internet. Anakin is the same soul as Rey and therefore they are both the chosen one because they are the same person. I really hope he doesn't replay that storyline.
Posted on 1/12/17 at 6:34 am to tiggerthetooth
1. The prophecy bit is just bad prequel writing so I wouldn't dwell on it too much
2. They don't say he will bring balance and that it will last forever and that nobody will ever be bad again
2. They don't say he will bring balance and that it will last forever and that nobody will ever be bad again
Posted on 1/12/17 at 7:13 am to Wishnitwas1998
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I thought the prophesy of the chosen one was only "to bring balance to the force". Issue was the Jedi misinterpreted that as meaning destroy the Sith when in actuality it just meant Balance
This is how I understood it after the stupid prequel writing by Lucas.
Pre Anakin - lots of Jedi, two sith
Post Anakin - kills Jedi, two left, therefore, BALANCE
Posted on 1/12/17 at 8:44 am to tiggerthetooth
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Now that there are obviously still "sith" running around in episode 7, doesn't that mean Anakin never truly destroyed all of the Sith?
Kylo Ren isn't a sith, and we have no proof that Supreme Leader Snoke is either.
This post was edited on 1/12/17 at 10:42 am
Posted on 1/12/17 at 9:03 am to tiggerthetooth
Balance doesn't mean no dark and no light. I believe you were the one asking about the clone wars series the other day. It has a three episode trilogy in season 3 which explains what exactly balance means. For there to be balance there must be dark and light, you cannot have one without the other. The problem was both the Jedi and Sith were using their preferred side to try and manipulate the force and tip the balance in their favor.
There are more force using groups than just the jedi & sith. Balance goes beyond just them. They were the two parties that were both guilty of the imbalance. Jedi through their dogmatic views and use of political influence and the sith for obvious reasons
For Anakin to bring balance, he had to purge the Jedi of their dogmatic views first before he eliminated the Sith. Balance was finally achieved when no active force user group was able to tip the balance too far in either light or dark direction.
So, no, 7 does not nullify that. Do I expect Abrams to be lazy and make a "new" chosen one? Absolutely and I will be very disappointed when it happens.
There are more force using groups than just the jedi & sith. Balance goes beyond just them. They were the two parties that were both guilty of the imbalance. Jedi through their dogmatic views and use of political influence and the sith for obvious reasons
For Anakin to bring balance, he had to purge the Jedi of their dogmatic views first before he eliminated the Sith. Balance was finally achieved when no active force user group was able to tip the balance too far in either light or dark direction.
So, no, 7 does not nullify that. Do I expect Abrams to be lazy and make a "new" chosen one? Absolutely and I will be very disappointed when it happens.
Posted on 1/12/17 at 9:18 am to GoCrazyAuburn
Is it safe to say that Snoke balances Luke and Rey balances Ren?
Posted on 1/12/17 at 9:43 am to Sgt_Lincoln_Osiris
Eh its not really a numbers thing, but if you want to look at it that way, you can.
Posted on 1/12/17 at 9:58 am to tiggerthetooth
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Now that there are obviously still "sith" running around in episode 7, doesn't that mean Anakin never truly destroyed all of the Sith?
Any Jedi can still turn to the Dark Side. Doesn't necessarily make them Sith, it just means there is a light and a dark side.
This is why many expect Kylo to eventually turn to the light and Rey turn to the dark side.
Posted on 1/12/17 at 10:04 am to Huey Lewis
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1. The prophecy bit is just bad prequel writing so I wouldn't dwell on it too much
Just another example of Lucas ruining the concept of the Force. Originally it was a cool abstract philosophy, then he gave it prophecies and rigid rules and fricking goddamn son of a bitch bacteria.
Less is more, especially when it comes to mystical shite.
Posted on 1/12/17 at 10:27 am to LucasP
I'll give you midichlorians. Nothing wrong with the prophecy. It is explained quite well in TCW.
Posted on 1/12/17 at 10:56 am to tiggerthetooth
There were sith before DV, there are sith after DV, there always has to be a balance of good vs evil. That's how the universe works.
Death follows life and vice versa.
Death follows life and vice versa.
Posted on 1/12/17 at 10:58 am to Bluefin
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Doesn't necessarily make them Sith, it just means there is a light and a dark side.
What does then?
What is the final broom to jump to become Jedi or Sith?
Posted on 1/12/17 at 11:01 am to Wishnitwas1998
quote:before: 2 sith, shitload of jedi
I thought the prophesy of the chosen one was only "to bring balance to the force". Issue was the Jedi misinterpreted that as meaning destroy the Sith when in actuality it just meant Balance
after: 2 sith, 2 jedi
Posted on 1/12/17 at 11:38 am to tiggerthetooth
He brought balance to the force. The prophecy didn't say the balance would last forever. The story, though, was more about a messiah who failed than a messiah who succeeded.
Posted on 1/12/17 at 11:52 am to Kracka
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There were sith before DV, there are sith after DV, there always has to be a balance of good vs evil. That's how the universe works.
I'm just thinking of Obi-Wan's quote when he was yelling at Anakin after he sliced his legs off.
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"You were the chosen one!"
"It was said you were to DESTROY the sith! Not join them!"
Posted on 1/12/17 at 12:12 pm to airfernando
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The story, though, was more about a messiah who failed than a messiah who succeeded.
Except he did succeed
Posted on 1/12/17 at 12:20 pm to Kracka
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What is the final broom to jump to become Jedi or Sith?
Taking on/becoming an apprentice.
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