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re: Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D - The Framework

Posted on 5/17/17 at 9:11 am to
Posted by Darkknight
Member since Mar 2012
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Posted on 5/17/17 at 9:11 am to
How's it been going Murr?

I believe that Fox has the rights to Uatu, but not the Watchers.

I wondered about Ward also. No big goodbye or dramatic send off. Almost like the writers forgot about him.
Posted by Murray
Member since Aug 2008
14421 posts
Posted on 5/17/17 at 11:52 am to
Whats crackin DK? I'm good man. Just busier than I'd like to be but it'll slow down a bit soon.


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I believe that Fox has the rights to Uatu, but not the Watchers.


Gotcha. Makes sense I guess. Multiple Watchers wasn't a thing until later on right? I can't remember so well.

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I wondered about Ward also. No big goodbye or dramatic send off. Almost like the writers forgot about him.


I'll never understand the handling of that character. I'd love to know what really happened. The actor didn't have anything else going on that I know of and I know many fans of the show that had him high on their list of favorites. Oh well.


Posted by Darkknight
Member since Mar 2012
1415 posts
Posted on 5/17/17 at 12:05 pm to
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Multiple Watchers wasn't a thing until later on right?


Yea, but I don't think it was long after Uatu first appeared. Late 60's.

Posted by lagallifrey
Member since Dec 2013
2010 posts
Posted on 5/17/17 at 1:38 pm to
quote:

I wondered about Ward also. No big goodbye or dramatic send off. Almost like the writers forgot about him.


This was really bizarre.

Also, I guess I missed it but how did Mac and Yo-Yo get out of the framework?
Posted by Darkknight
Member since Mar 2012
1415 posts
Posted on 5/17/17 at 2:48 pm to
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how did Mac and Yo-Yo get out of the framework?


IDK. I guess Daisy gave Yo-Yo a device to get them out. Like the one her and Simmons had when they first went into the Framework.
Posted by Neauxla
New Orleans
Member since Feb 2008
33443 posts
Posted on 5/17/17 at 2:52 pm to
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IDK. I guess Daisy gave Yo-Yo a device to get them out. Like the one her and Simmons had when they first went into the Framework.
can't be that b/c YoYo went into the framework w/o her knowledge
Posted by CGSC Lobotomy
Member since Sep 2011
80231 posts
Posted on 5/17/17 at 2:56 pm to
Daisy and Fitz hacked into the framework and inserted code specifically to protect Mack and Elena. The back door was in the same spot, just appeared different this time.

Daisy put yoyos in Radcliff's pockets to clue him in.
Posted by CE Tiger
Metairie
Member since Jan 2008
41584 posts
Posted on 5/17/17 at 5:03 pm to
The door(programmed by daisy ) showed up in Macs apartment to get them out
Posted by TigernMS12
Member since Jan 2013
5531 posts
Posted on 5/17/17 at 5:33 pm to
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The door(programmed by daisy ) showed up in Macs apartment to get them out


That's what I thought too. They sat there and when it appeared were like "We have to go." I presumed they made it out just in time after Mac's girl disappeared and he decided to go back with yoyo
Posted by STEVED00
Member since May 2007
22377 posts
Posted on 5/18/17 at 7:55 am to
The team killing Aida was pretty anticlimactic (btw where did they find a spare Simmons bot lying around). I was hoping for a little better final battle. Also the Russian dude is still out and about so I guess he may reappear at some point.

Moving on...

So for us non comic nerds, where the hell was Colston at the end of the episode? People are mentioning S.W.O.R.D, is that kind of a space version of SHEILD?

Posted by lagallifrey
Member since Dec 2013
2010 posts
Posted on 5/18/17 at 9:00 am to
It was anticlimactic because ghost rider is that powerful. It just wasn't a contest, as long as she couldn't get away. He could be one of the most powerful avengers in the movies, if not the most powerful of all.
Posted by Darkknight
Member since Mar 2012
1415 posts
Posted on 5/18/17 at 9:09 am to
quote:

People are mentioning S.W.O.R.D, is that kind of a space version of SHEILD?


Pretty much like SHEILD, except they deal more with aliens. SWORD's headquarters is a spacestation called The Peak.

But I'm not convinced he is a prisoner of SWORD. In the comics, The Peak orbits the earth. The shot of Coulson looking out the window had what appears to be a good number asteroids. Also, there was an odd blue light in the backdrop of space. So either they moved The Peak further into space for the show or Coulson is somewhere else.

Only other place I can think of is The Big House and the asteroids are actually subatomic particles.
Posted by Darkknight
Member since Mar 2012
1415 posts
Posted on 5/18/17 at 9:27 am to

Posted by LoneMDG
Birmingham
Member since Nov 2009
2747 posts
Posted on 5/18/17 at 10:04 am to
quote:

It was anticlimactic because ghost rider is that powerful. It just wasn't a contest, as long as she couldn't get away. He could be one of the most powerful avengers in the movies, if not the most powerful of all.


Yep.

AIDA could definitely be an Avengers-Level threat, and easily could have taken out the SHIELD team if she wasn't fixated on attempting to psychologically torture them. She just came across something built to destroy what she's made of (Darkhold stuff). Hell, GR about nigh unstoppable.

I appreciate the fact they added in the small bits of scenes where you can see AIDA's "oh shiiit" face, as well as her running away every time he got close. She knew she couldn't handle Ghost Rider.
Posted by CGSC Lobotomy
Member since Sep 2011
80231 posts
Posted on 5/18/17 at 11:14 am to
quote:

People are mentioning S.W.O.R.D, is that kind of a space version of SHEILD?


Their director, Abigail Brand, is a half-human/half-alien hybrid with green hair and pyrokinetic abilities.

Perfect role for Katee Sackhoff if they introduce her.
Posted by donRANDOMnumbers
Hub City
Member since Nov 2006
16908 posts
Posted on 5/18/17 at 10:57 pm to
I love the way ghost rider was portrayed. He could easily translate to movies now.
Posted by CGSC Lobotomy
Member since Sep 2011
80231 posts
Posted on 5/19/17 at 12:17 am to
Keep Robbie Reyes in TV/Netflix and use Johnny Blaze and Danny Ketch for movies.

I watched it again and didn't see it the first time, but when you see the Rider himself getting angry his flames get larger.
This post was edited on 5/22/17 at 4:58 pm
Posted by BaddestAndvari
That Overweight Racist State
Member since Mar 2011
18295 posts
Posted on 8/11/17 at 1:07 pm to
quote:

Keep Robbie Reyes in TV/Netflix and use Johnny Blaze and Danny Ketch for movies.

I watched it again and didn't see it the first time, but when you see the Rider himself getting angry his flames get larger.


I know I'm really late to this, and it's been a very long time since this show ended, but I finally just finished this season, and holy cow it was the best season of AoS too date

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As for the quoted section: Colston said "he'll be back, they always come back" - almost as if he's run into other Ghost Riders before, the thing is they didn't use Robbie's origin story from the comics, so I don't know if it would be possible to have a Blaze or Ketch around as well as Reyes, because it appears they are going the other worldly being route, which was also Blaze and Ketch's story.

But who knows
Posted by CGSC Lobotomy
Member since Sep 2011
80231 posts
Posted on 8/11/17 at 4:00 pm to
They modified Robbie's origin. In the comics, Eli Morrow's spirit is the actual Rider.

Someone mentioned it earlier, but Ghost Rider is one of the top 3 most powerful beings in Marvel. The only thing holding him back is the host itself.
This post was edited on 8/11/17 at 4:02 pm
Posted by BaddestAndvari
That Overweight Racist State
Member since Mar 2011
18295 posts
Posted on 8/11/17 at 9:10 pm to
Let me explain a bit more... It appears they after making the Rider in Robbie Zarathos after he made a deal with Mephisto... Meaning, they gave Robbie the merge story of Blaze, which mean you can't have Blaze, because Zarathos cannot be in Blaze, as he is in Robbie.
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