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re: Youth baseball coaches/dads - advice please - Update and Thanks to DPD901
Posted on 4/5/17 at 8:38 pm to The Stranger
Posted on 4/5/17 at 8:38 pm to The Stranger
Exactly Stranger my 7 year old hits live pitching better than my 9 year old but hell they are young. . They are kids let em play and quit worrying about travel ball status. If he is 8 and cant hit underhand pitching more than likely soccer is a better option or just lay off the drills and let him be a kid.
Posted on 4/5/17 at 8:39 pm to CajunAlum Tiger Fan
Withdraw.
This post was edited on 4/5/17 at 8:44 pm
Posted on 4/5/17 at 8:39 pm to CajunAlum Tiger Fan
He's fricking 8 dude. How many drills do you think he needs?
Posted on 4/5/17 at 8:40 pm to lake2280
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Exactly Stranger my 7 year old hits live pitching better than my 9 year old but hell they are young. . They are kids let em play and quit worrying about travel ball status. If he is 8 and cant hit underhand pitching more than likely soccer is a better option or just lay off the drills and let him be a kid.
Could this response be a joke?
Only rational explanation I could come up with.
*Wait. I get it now. You're agreeing with my post.
This post was edited on 4/5/17 at 8:45 pm
Posted on 4/5/17 at 8:42 pm to CajunAlum Tiger Fan
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I'm not talking to my son about mechanics or telling him what to do or what not to do. I'm trying to diagnose it with help, here, and come up with a drill/techniques to help him correct it.
Based on what you're saying in your post I doubt you're not talking to him about mechanics.
Kids 8. He needs be getting all the Sandlot action he can get. Play around. Pretend to be different big leaguers. Have fun. Hit the ball.
You're going about this in a way that doesn't help him as much as you probably think.
Posted on 4/5/17 at 8:42 pm to CajunAlum Tiger Fan
shite changes at that age. He might just need to get comfortable with how his body works as he gets older, taller, stronger, longer. Hitting is hard and it's tough as hell to have repeatable mechanics at that age.
If what he's doing with his hands is ridiculous then work on him loading his hands backwards a bit without moving them up. Load and step with his front foot at the same time until loading like that is comfortable. It's a tiny movement.
After that, just see the ball and hit the shite. Don't get all complicated. At that age he's just learning to be an athlete.
If what he's doing with his hands is ridiculous then work on him loading his hands backwards a bit without moving them up. Load and step with his front foot at the same time until loading like that is comfortable. It's a tiny movement.
After that, just see the ball and hit the shite. Don't get all complicated. At that age he's just learning to be an athlete.
Posted on 4/5/17 at 8:57 pm to ReauxlTide222
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shite changes at that age.
This^^^x100. Their minds and bodies change from year to year at this age. Some of the really good players aren't really good at all, just physically advanced for their age group. It isn't until 8th or 9th grade when you can truly discern if they have an exceptional talent for the game or not. My son dominated from age 5-9, simply because he was bigger and stronger. First couple years of live arm he couldn't buy a hit. Then as an 8th grader he suddenly started hitting everything. It's hard to gauge until they get older. The best advice is to not worry too much about swing mechanics. Make sure they have a solid, comfortable stance, and give them a simple swing thought and let them react. Save lessons and mechanics until jr high or high school.
Posted on 4/5/17 at 9:19 pm to DoreonthePlains
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Are his hands coming up and in (towards his face), up and forward, or just going straight up before he starts his swing?
His hands come up and forward but he opens up so fast that he pulls the bat across his body and finishes like he's swinging at a pitch coming from the third baseman.
Posted on 4/6/17 at 7:22 am to CajunAlum Tiger Fan
My son started his second Machine pitch season in a slump, so I came up with this drill and it worked wonders:
Put a ball on a tee and have him take his stance. Stand where the pitcher would be with a ball and make a pitching motion while he looks at you, but hold the ball and have him hit the one on the tee. What this does is make him rotate his head down to look at the ball on the tee to hit it. This will train him to follow the ball in with his eyes and head when he faces a live pitch.
Don't think my son struck out the rest of the season after we started this drill.
Put a ball on a tee and have him take his stance. Stand where the pitcher would be with a ball and make a pitching motion while he looks at you, but hold the ball and have him hit the one on the tee. What this does is make him rotate his head down to look at the ball on the tee to hit it. This will train him to follow the ball in with his eyes and head when he faces a live pitch.
Don't think my son struck out the rest of the season after we started this drill.
This post was edited on 4/6/17 at 7:23 am
Posted on 4/6/17 at 11:22 am to CajunAlum Tiger Fan
Take a knee and pitch to him overhand to get him used to a low arm angle.
Get away from a machine. Destroys timing. He can go back later.
Make him take 20 reps on a tee before you pitch BUT make him break the swing down into 3 distinct steps. Load, stride, swing focusing on keeping his hands back and developing the muscle memory.
Get away from a machine. Destroys timing. He can go back later.
Make him take 20 reps on a tee before you pitch BUT make him break the swing down into 3 distinct steps. Load, stride, swing focusing on keeping his hands back and developing the muscle memory.
Posted on 4/6/17 at 12:45 pm to Quatre Pot
There's no such thing as muscle memory.
Posted on 4/6/17 at 1:19 pm to nc14
machine pitch is a waste of time and effort... find a solid Coaches pitch gig for an 8 year old
Posted on 4/6/17 at 1:25 pm to CajunAlum Tiger Fan
set up on a field, put the screen close to the plate, but stagger it. lean off the right side and just toss him the ball underhand. Like a "live" softtoss. See how he reacts to that. When he gets that down, back up a little further until you are lobbing it overhand.
Re: fear for young kids is also one of the biggest things that will hold them back. I think it is mental and really hard to change if you aren't born with that lion mentality. Simply said if you want to be a great hitter and attack the ball, you cant be scared of it.
Re: fear for young kids is also one of the biggest things that will hold them back. I think it is mental and really hard to change if you aren't born with that lion mentality. Simply said if you want to be a great hitter and attack the ball, you cant be scared of it.
Posted on 4/6/17 at 1:55 pm to dpd901
I like this and all of the solid advice offered.
I appreciate the input from all.
I appreciate the input from all.
Posted on 4/6/17 at 2:12 pm to CajunAlum Tiger Fan
reading this thread, i'm surprised no one has said his vision may be off kilter... it might be causing the ball to appear to him like it's something it's not when thrown from a longer distance
when you have muscle memory, i don't think you lose it unless something else is at play
when you have muscle memory, i don't think you lose it unless something else is at play
Posted on 4/6/17 at 3:30 pm to chalmetteowl
The issue is hitting off a tee, hitting soft toss, and hitting a pitch are three different motor programs.
So you can be extremely proficient at doing one or either of them and be poor at the 3rd.
The only way to get better at hitting a pitched ball, is to hit pitched balls.
So you can be extremely proficient at doing one or either of them and be poor at the 3rd.
The only way to get better at hitting a pitched ball, is to hit pitched balls.
Posted on 4/6/17 at 4:29 pm to CajunAlum Tiger Fan
Only practice game speed.
Consider his stance.
Choke up some.
Just make contact
Consider his stance.
Choke up some.
Just make contact
Posted on 4/6/17 at 4:29 pm to CajunAlum Tiger Fan
Remind yourself that he's 8 years old and learning how to play the game. It takes time and lots of reps (and then some more, etc.). Try not to over complicate things when you work with him...get you front foot down, stay tall, & swing that bastard like you mean it.
Best of luck, hope he starts crushing the ball.
Best of luck, hope he starts crushing the ball.
Posted on 4/6/17 at 4:30 pm to CajunAlum Tiger Fan
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Your reading comprehension sucks as much as your post. I'm not talking to my son about mechanics or telling him what to do or what not to do. I'm trying to diagnose it with help, here, and come up with a drill/techniques to help him correct it.
You deserve credit for being an involved father who only wants to help his son improve. You are not living vicariously through him, you clearly want to help him get better and become the best he can be. Don't let people like that spoil the moment.
His response to you is what is so despicable about this board. You ask legitimate questions and the " cool dudes" with 28,000 posts since 2014 show up and attack you or hijack your thread to suit their agendas. Then your post gets deleted through no fault of your own.
There are posted policies on this board which are discriminately applied. Those posters who personally attack other posters instead of responding to the topic should be immediately banned. Then maybe we could have rational discussion even with those that hold different opinions.
Posted on 4/6/17 at 4:50 pm to CajunAlum Tiger Fan
Also just playing catch regularly at that age is huge. Throwing a ball of a wall, getting weird angles and hops. Helps develop hand-eye which will apply to hitting as well
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