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re: Would you have allowed Rory's group to play up...?

Posted on 8/11/14 at 11:13 am to
Posted by LNCHBOX
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Posted on 8/11/14 at 11:13 am to
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Because he was rushing to finish.


How do you know that's what caused the bad shot? Why even take driver there?
Posted by WDE24
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Posted on 8/11/14 at 11:16 am to
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Why even take driver there?
He had more control over his driver than 3 wood this week. Also, Phil had Eagled 18 once and was plenty capable of doing it again. He had to protect against that by giving himself the best chance to make birdie if he needed it.
Posted by Choupique19
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Posted on 8/11/14 at 11:17 am to
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Only cost him $300,000-$400,000 haha.


There are many infamous, similar misses that have cost people much more.

I can't remember exactly what year, I'm pretty sure it was one of Retief Goosen's win. But I think Davis Love III felt he needed birdie on the last hole to tie for the lead (he wasn't in the last group) and he ran his 15ish foot birdie putt past the hole, then gave a half-hearted attempt at his short par putt coming back. He missed, and when the leaders bogeyed at the end Love III missed out on the playoff by 1 stroke.

At least I think it was Love.
Posted by Choupique19
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Posted on 8/11/14 at 11:19 am to
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Also, Phil had Eagled 18 once and was plenty capable of doing it again. He had to protect against that by giving himself the best chance to make birdie if he needed it.








Very good point. If Rory had waited until Monday to tee off he would have known that par would win, so he could have just hit 2 irons, a short pitch, and then 2 putt for the win.
Posted by Ford Frenzy
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Posted on 8/11/14 at 1:26 pm to
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can't remember exactly what year, I'm pretty sure it was one of Retief Goosen's win. But I think Davis Love III felt he needed birdie on the last hole to tie for the lead (he wasn't in the last group) and he ran his 15ish foot birdie putt past the hole, then gave a half-hearted attempt at his short par putt coming back. He missed, and when the leaders bogeyed at the end Love III missed out on the playoff by 1 stroke.

At least I think it was Love.
it was Stewart Cink
Posted by Golfer
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Posted on 8/11/14 at 1:47 pm to
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If Rory tees of tommorrow knowing he only needs par on a par 5, he prolly just puts the ball up there and it is way easier on him. The chaotic end and not knowing what was needed was way more to Phil and Rickies advantage


The more I think about it I'm of this position.

Rory's second shot would have been a pitch out of the rough to 75-100 yards had he waited to hit after Phil and Rickie missed their eagle attempts. Instead by hitting up he has to assume they make their 3rd shot.
Posted by Choupique19
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Posted on 8/11/14 at 1:52 pm to
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Rory's second shot would have been a pitch out of the rough to 75-100 yards had he waited to hit after Phil and Rickie missed their eagle attempts. Instead by hitting up he has to assume they make their 3rd shot.


Well, to be honest, and add more discussion to the topic, Rory said that he didn't expect to reach the bunker. They said it jumped out of the rough on him. I'm guessing Rory was trying to lay up 15 yards or so short of the bunker.
Posted by Golfer
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Posted on 8/11/14 at 2:20 pm to
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Well, to be honest, and add more discussion to the topic, Rory said that he didn't expect to reach the bunker. They said it jumped out of the rough on him. I'm guessing Rory was trying to lay up 15 yards or so short of the bunker.


Correct, he was trying to put it in position to make birdie knowing he would need a 4 to beat Phil/Rickie's eagle.

Posted by unbeWEAVEable
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Posted on 8/11/14 at 3:04 pm to
Semantics.

I don't expect to hit it off line when going for a green in two, but that doesn't mean I shouldn't wait for the guys who just cleared the green to pull away from a distance that is clearly within my reach.
Posted by tigerfoot
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Posted on 8/11/14 at 3:16 pm to
Any of the three of them could've stopped it, if Rory thought it was too dark, he should've picked up. If Phil thought it was too rushed or whatever, he could've stopped it. Same for Fowler.

Posted by tigerfoot
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Posted on 8/11/14 at 3:18 pm to
My only complaint was Rory hitting down 16 with Fowler on the 15th fairway...it was the wrong play. For that reason alone, they should have made them wait. But like I said before, Rory could just stop and pick up where he wanted.
Posted by WDE24
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Posted on 8/11/14 at 3:20 pm to
I don't wait for thegreen to clear on par 5s. It helps my game.

If I say to myself, "you need to hit the perfect shot to actually reach, so go ahead and hit." Then I hit and end up firing into the group in front of me. I'm an arse, but I'm also on in two.

If I wait, I will hit it fat or ob.
Posted by Golfer
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Posted on 8/11/14 at 3:27 pm to
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I don't expect to hit it off line when going for a green in two, but that doesn't mean I shouldn't wait for the guys who just cleared the green to pull away from a distance that is clearly within my reach.



Heh?

Not sure what this has to do with Rory's shot selection on 18...
Posted by tigerfoot
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Posted on 8/11/14 at 3:28 pm to
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If I say to myself, "you need to hit the perfect shot to actually reach, so go ahead and hit." Then I hit and end up firing into the group in front of me. I'm an arse, but I'm also on in two.
and a lot of folks will just kick your shite in the bunker......there is no reason to hit into people.

Posted by WDE24
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Posted on 8/11/14 at 3:29 pm to
No one kicks my shite into a bunker but me.

And I only do that when I need to pad my handicap.
This post was edited on 8/11/14 at 3:34 pm
Posted by unbeWEAVEable
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Posted on 8/11/14 at 3:38 pm to
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Not sure what this has to do with Rory's shot selection on 18...


Semantics. My point is semantics. Just because he "didn't expect to reach the bunker" with that shot doesn't mean that he should have gone ahead and hit. He knew good and damn well he was capable, so "expectation" is no excuse.
Posted by Golfer
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Posted on 8/11/14 at 3:41 pm to
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Just because he "didn't expect to reach the bunker" with that shot doesn't mean that he should have gone ahead and hit. He knew good and damn well he was capable, so "expectation" is no excuse.


I know. Because he was trying to get the ball to the front edge of the green, giving him the best opportunity to make birdie. Because at the time of his shot he's assuming Phil/Rickie make their 3rd shots.

Posted by Janky
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Posted on 8/11/14 at 3:48 pm to
Rory is the new Honey Badger. He don't give a frick. He do what he want.
Posted by Choupique19
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Posted on 8/11/14 at 5:51 pm to
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Rory is the new Tiger. PGA officials do what he wants them to do.


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