- My Forums
- Tiger Rant
- LSU Recruiting
- SEC Rant
- Saints Talk
- Pelicans Talk
- More Sports Board
- Fantasy Sports
- Golf Board
- Soccer Board
- O-T Lounge
- Tech Board
- Home/Garden Board
- Outdoor Board
- Health/Fitness Board
- Movie/TV Board
- Book Board
- Music Board
- Political Talk
- Money Talk
- Fark Board
- Gaming Board
- Travel Board
- Food/Drink Board
- Ticket Exchange
- TD Help Board
Customize My Forums- View All Forums
- Show Left Links
- Topic Sort Options
- Trending Topics
- Recent Topics
- Active Topics
Started By
Message
Will missing out again force the Big 12 to add teams?
Posted on 10/22/15 at 6:26 am
Posted on 10/22/15 at 6:26 am
If Baylor loses there's a decent chance the big 12 champ will miss the playoffs again. Heck, even if Baylor runs the table...
If it was Texas and OU in Baylor and TCU's shoes the conference would've already expanded after getting snubbed last year.. and added a championship game.
One of the obvious choices? BYU. They have some national pull, their network is floundering. The other could be Memphis.
If it was Texas and OU in Baylor and TCU's shoes the conference would've already expanded after getting snubbed last year.. and added a championship game.
One of the obvious choices? BYU. They have some national pull, their network is floundering. The other could be Memphis.
11
Posted on 10/22/15 at 6:39 am to TejasHorn
1. Baylor is being ranked in the top 4 by basically everyone right now so them being left out after going undefeated seems unlikely. The ACC or Pac12 champ is much more likely to miss out and they both play a CG.
2. So you think if the committee could rationalize jumping a team over an undefeated Baylor, somehow them beating Memphis would mean they would not get jumped?
3. A 4 team playoff guarantees at least one major champ will always be left out, so adding a championship game is not a fail safe answer
2. So you think if the committee could rationalize jumping a team over an undefeated Baylor, somehow them beating Memphis would mean they would not get jumped?
3. A 4 team playoff guarantees at least one major champ will always be left out, so adding a championship game is not a fail safe answer
Posted on 10/22/15 at 6:39 am to TejasHorn
I think they are hoping for the P5 to deregulate conference championship games sooner rather than later.
That way they can have a championship game without having to ad schools. The downside to that is if they still play round robin, the CG would always be a rematch.
That way they can have a championship game without having to ad schools. The downside to that is if they still play round robin, the CG would always be a rematch.
Posted on 10/22/15 at 6:40 am to TejasHorn
I honestly think if they just had a championship game they'd be much more respected.
You can still have that with 10 teams.
I also think they should expand, but having Utah and West Virginia in the same conference is a long way.
You can still have that with 10 teams.
I also think they should expand, but having Utah and West Virginia in the same conference is a long way.
Posted on 10/22/15 at 6:49 am to TejasHorn
quote:
If it was Texas and OU in Baylor and TCU's shoes the conference would've already expanded after getting snubbed last year.. and added a championship game.
if it was Texas or OU they wouldn't have gotten snubbed. Its also hilarious that people criticize the round robin schedule which is superior in every way except TV money than the 2 division systemThis post was edited on 10/22/15 at 6:51 am
Posted on 10/22/15 at 7:04 am to VerlanderBEAST
If they add two schools it should be BYU and Cincinnati. If they decided to add 4 it sould be BYU, Cincinnati, Colorado State and Houston.
Posted on 10/22/15 at 7:09 am to VerlanderBEAST
quote:
Its also hilarious that people criticize the round robin schedule which is superior in every way except TV money than the 2 division system
Without a conference championship game, the Big 12 is sitting at home watching everyone else play top competition at some point in the season. That's a significant advantage. What's even worse is when they're playing teams like Iowa State or Kansas in December, then pretending that blowing those teams out is somehow impressive. That's something they should be doing in September, not December.
The Big 12 deserves to be left out every year if it's even questionable that they aren't top four, and I don't care if that's Baylor or Oklahoma. No conference championship game is a huge deal in this system, and they better get on board with that.
Posted on 10/22/15 at 7:18 am to The Easter Bunny
quote:
1. Baylor is being ranked in the top 4 by basically everyone right now so them being left out after going undefeated seems unlikely.
Especially since they have to go through TCU in the regular season to run the table
Posted on 10/22/15 at 7:24 am to TexasTiger1185
quote:
I honestly think if they just had a championship game they'd be much more respected.
What value would a championship game be when the conference plays round robin where everyone plays every team in the conference. Imagine the shite storm if an Undefeated team has to play a two loss team in the CCG and loses. You are left out for sure then.
The perfect system is where everyone in a conference plays each other but with the size of the other conferences it doesn't work.
Posted on 10/22/15 at 7:29 am to VerlanderBEAST
quote:
if it was Texas or OU they wouldn't have gotten snubbed.
I agree with you in part. They would have had a much stronger chance of getting last year. Part of the problem the Big12 had, in my opinion, was that in the final weeks of the season TCU looked to be their best bet at getting in so the balked at the idea of naming Baylor champion.
I don't think Baylor ends up getting in anyway, but I do think that played a role.
Posted on 10/22/15 at 7:52 am to TejasHorn
A knee jerk reaction of adding sub-par teams will hurt the Big 12 in the long run. If Baylor doesn't want to be left out of the playoffs, play a non conference team with a pulse. They have no one to blame but themselves.
Baylor's OOC schedule last 3 years:
Woffard, UL-Monroe, Buffalo
SMU, Northwestern Louisiana, Buffalo
SMU, Lamar,Rice
Baylor's OOC schedule last 3 years:
Woffard, UL-Monroe, Buffalo
SMU, Northwestern Louisiana, Buffalo
SMU, Lamar,Rice
Posted on 10/22/15 at 8:10 am to double d
quote:
Imagine the shite storm if an Undefeated team has to play a two loss team in the CCG and loses. You are left out for sure then.
They should be left out in that case.
The perfect system includes a conference championship game...always.
Posted on 10/22/15 at 8:23 am to TexasTiger1185
quote:
I honestly think if they just had a championship game they'd be much more respected.
You can still have that with 10 teams.
The NCAA says you can't have a championship game with less than 12 in your conference
Posted on 10/22/15 at 8:30 am to DisplacedBuckeye
quote:
The perfect system includes a conference championship game...always.
I agree. It's ridiculous some teams have an extra "must win" game against a good team and others don't. Until they do, they should be overlooked when choosing playoff teams.
Not only do teams have to win the conf. champ game, they get injuries, etc.
*that's why Alabama going to the NC a few years ago was ridiculous. I'm 100% LSU fan and I'll be the first to admit Bama prob had a better team that year.
HOWEVER, if you don't play in and win conf championship game, you shouldn't go. Bama got a nice long rest while we had to go to battle with a good team on a neutral field. Grade A bologna.
Posted on 10/22/15 at 9:09 am to blueboxer1119
quote:
Bama got a nice long rest while we had to go to battle with a good team on a neutral field.
That "nice long rest" was only a week longer than LSU's.
I have no problem with conference championships playing a role in the playoff, but as long as there is a selection process, it's stupid to penalize teams for not getting to play one. I wouldn't necessarily penalize a team for losing that extra game either. That's the whole point, theoretically, of the committee. To evaluate the teams without the "bias."
People look at it as other conferences "having" to play an extra game. Well, the Big12 can't play one.
Posted on 10/22/15 at 9:11 am to TigerintheNO
quote:
If Baylor doesn't want to be left out of the playoffs, play a non conference team with a pulse. They have no one to blame but themselves.
Baylor's OOC schedule last 3 years:
Woffard, UL-Monroe, Buffalo
SMU, Northwestern Louisiana, Buffalo
SMU, Lamar,Rice
Posted on 10/22/15 at 9:16 am to TejasHorn
A simple "quick fix" is to have five playoff teams, and have No. 4 and No. 5 do a play-in game at No. 4's home field. This ensures that the committee can place a team from each of the power 5 conferences if it chooses to.
Of course, we can expand to 6 or more teams in the playoffs, but if they really wanted to keep it small but fair, five teams would work.
Of course, we can expand to 6 or more teams in the playoffs, but if they really wanted to keep it small but fair, five teams would work.
Posted on 10/22/15 at 9:20 am to TejasHorn
Laugh at me. But I would go for BYU and UAB. UAB sits in the middle of the top rated college football viewership market. So the exposure for the league would be there.
Posted on 10/22/15 at 9:21 am to AUCE05
UCF would be a frick ton of a better add then UAB
Posted on 10/22/15 at 9:23 am to AUCE05
quote:
Laugh at me. But I would go for BYU and UAB. UAB sits in the middle of the top rated college football viewership market. So the exposure for the league would be there.
UAB? Seriously? They would do better getting South Alabama.
Page 1 of 12
Popular
Back to top
Follow TigerDroppings for LSU Football News