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Why Would You Hire a Failed ND Coach?
Posted on 9/15/15 at 5:17 pm
Posted on 9/15/15 at 5:17 pm
Looking at their track records.
Gerry Faust at ND:
5-6
6-4-1
7-5
7-5
5-6
At Akron:
4-7
5-6
6-4-1
3-7-1
5-6
7-3-1
5-6
1-10
Bob Davie at ND:
7-6
9-3
5-7
9-3
5-6
At New Mexico:
4-9
3-8
4-8
1-1
Tyrone Willingham at ND:
10-3
5-7
6-5
At Washington:
2-9
5-7
4-9
0-12
Charlie Weis at ND:
9-3
10-3
3-9
7-6
5-6
At Kansas:
1-11
3-9
2-2
The best was Faust at Akron, and he was marginally successful at a major step down. The lesson is, Notre Dame hires really shitty coaches, and when they finally wise up and fire them, other schools shouldn't hire them.
Gerry Faust at ND:
5-6
6-4-1
7-5
7-5
5-6
At Akron:
4-7
5-6
6-4-1
3-7-1
5-6
7-3-1
5-6
1-10
Bob Davie at ND:
7-6
9-3
5-7
9-3
5-6
At New Mexico:
4-9
3-8
4-8
1-1
Tyrone Willingham at ND:
10-3
5-7
6-5
At Washington:
2-9
5-7
4-9
0-12
Charlie Weis at ND:
9-3
10-3
3-9
7-6
5-6
At Kansas:
1-11
3-9
2-2
The best was Faust at Akron, and he was marginally successful at a major step down. The lesson is, Notre Dame hires really shitty coaches, and when they finally wise up and fire them, other schools shouldn't hire them.
Posted on 9/15/15 at 5:18 pm to Mr Personality
Do any programs have a track record of producing good coaches that they fire?
Posted on 9/15/15 at 5:18 pm to Mr Personality
Lou Holtz at S Carolina?
Posted on 9/15/15 at 5:20 pm to gobuxgo5
quote:
Do any programs have a track record of producing good coaches that they fire?
La Tech fans love Skippy, and USF is still recovering from his job there.
Posted on 9/15/15 at 5:21 pm to Mr Personality
Skip was an assistant and built UConn
Posted on 9/15/15 at 5:22 pm to Mr Personality
So citing 1 off examples did South Carolina love holtz?
Does ucf love O'Leary? (Also fired)
Seems like they have double the examples of programs you are mentioning.
Does ucf love O'Leary? (Also fired)
Seems like they have double the examples of programs you are mentioning.
This post was edited on 9/15/15 at 5:25 pm
Posted on 9/15/15 at 5:23 pm to SprintFun
quote:
Lou Holtz at S Carolina?
Loose Boltz may have gotten out before being fired, but he wasn't fired.
Posted on 9/15/15 at 5:23 pm to Mr Personality
Solich has done great at Ohio. Also Cutcliffe at Duke.
This post was edited on 9/15/15 at 5:24 pm
Posted on 9/15/15 at 5:23 pm to sms151t
Uconn took off with randy edsall
Posted on 9/15/15 at 5:23 pm to Mr Personality
so what you're telling me is coaches that were fired from their previous job might not be very good????
Posted on 9/15/15 at 5:24 pm to BilJ
Coaches fired from notre dame. Other fired coaches end up being winners
Posted on 9/15/15 at 5:24 pm to gobuxgo5
quote:
So citing 1 off examples did South Carolina love holtz?
No, not really.
quote:
Does ucf love O'Leary? Seems like they have double the examples of programs you are mentioning.
Never coached at ND, but he would have probably been successful.
This post was edited on 9/15/15 at 5:26 pm
Posted on 9/15/15 at 5:26 pm to Mr Personality
He was hired and fired from there
Posted on 9/15/15 at 5:26 pm to BilJ
quote:
so what you're telling me is coaches that were fired from their previous job might not be very good????
Broseph Barksdale just answered your question. There are examples.
Posted on 9/15/15 at 5:28 pm to gobuxgo5
quote:
He was hired and fired from there
No shite, but he never coached a game, so it's hard to judge him as a ND coach.
Posted on 9/15/15 at 5:28 pm to Mr Personality
I don't understand it either. Generally speaking, I'm not sure why you'd want a coach who failed at any major program. If they've got their choice of top recruits and can't get the job done, what do you expect them to accomplish having to fight to get top recruits? Then again, I'm thinking as an Ohio State fan. If my team were mediocre, I'd probably be happy with the thought of someone else's scraps.
Posted on 9/15/15 at 5:30 pm to gobuxgo5
I get what you're trying to say but Skip put foundation in as he built the program from scratch.
Posted on 9/15/15 at 5:30 pm to BuckeyeFan87
The whole premise is ignorant because he is attacking 1 program like it's common for a program to fire coaches and for those coaches to find success. It doesn't happen like that.
Posted on 9/15/15 at 5:31 pm to BuckeyeFan87
quote:
I don't understand it either. Generally speaking, I'm not sure why you'd want a coach who failed at any major program. If they've got their choice of top recruits and can't get the job done, what do you expect them to accomplish having to fight to get top recruits?
Thank you. This is my point.
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