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Why would Clemson (10-2) get at-large over Baylor (11-1)?

Posted on 12/3/13 at 2:22 pm
Posted by Boh
Baton Rouge
Member since Oct 2009
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Posted on 12/3/13 at 2:22 pm
With a win over Texas, Baylor would be 11-1 on the season and ranked in the top 10. Seems like Baylor would deserve an at-large BCS bid over Clemson, yet most bowl projections have Clemson getting the nod. Is this because of them getting first choice of a replacement at-large for Florida State?
Posted by Sevendust912
Member since Jun 2013
11366 posts
Posted on 12/3/13 at 2:23 pm to
Cuz they have more alumni which means more fans

They shouldn't though get the bid tho
Posted by Golfer
Member since Nov 2005
75052 posts
Posted on 12/3/13 at 2:24 pm to
Because Baylor's traveling fan base blows.
Posted by LSUBoo
Knoxville, TN
Member since Mar 2006
101915 posts
Posted on 12/3/13 at 2:24 pm to
quote:

Is this because of them getting first choice of a replacement at-large for Florida State?


Yes. Although they could also take Bama if the SEC Champ is in the Sugar Bowl.
Posted by CayceCock13
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Member since Oct 2012
17543 posts
Posted on 12/3/13 at 2:33 pm to
quote:

Is this because of them getting first choice of a replacement at-large for Florida State?


Yep, unfortantely.
This post was edited on 12/3/13 at 2:34 pm
Posted by SeeeeK
some where
Member since Sep 2012
28049 posts
Posted on 12/3/13 at 2:43 pm to
yeah, the replacement rule

Posted by Dr RC
The Money Pit
Member since Aug 2011
58054 posts
Posted on 12/3/13 at 2:47 pm to
Baylor's stadium only seats 50k

they have only filled it to that capacity 6 times in their history and 4 of those were against A&M traveling in high numbers due to us being so close to them. The other two were against Texas (1960) and OU (2013).

their fan base does not travel for shite either.

they only bought 800 tickets out of 3k to their last game in Kyle Field.
Posted by TheRookbird
Member since Aug 2013
1322 posts
Posted on 12/3/13 at 2:53 pm to
They also returned 3000 of 3800 for their game against Oklahoma State this year.
Posted by Majin Buu
Member since Nov 2013
1200 posts
Posted on 12/3/13 at 3:36 pm to
Well Virginia Tech (11-2) got an at-large over teams that deserved it more back in 11.
Posted by Boh
Baton Rouge
Member since Oct 2009
12357 posts
Posted on 12/3/13 at 3:38 pm to
That is pretty surprising considering they are building a badass new stadium. I thought their fanbase would be excited and actually attend more games.

On another note UCF and Northern Illinois are looking like they'll get BCS games, yet I doubt they'd travel very well (even though UCF probably has one of the largest enrollments in the country).
Posted by bigpapamac
Mobile, AL
Member since Oct 2007
22375 posts
Posted on 12/3/13 at 3:40 pm to
Orange Bowl would be making that decision, and they're an ACC tie-in bowl so it would be natural for them. The only real reason is $$$ though.
Posted by Boh
Baton Rouge
Member since Oct 2009
12357 posts
Posted on 12/3/13 at 3:44 pm to
quote:

The only real reason is $$$ though.

Definitely
Posted by TigerintheNO
New Orleans
Member since Jan 2004
41177 posts
Posted on 12/3/13 at 3:47 pm to
Even if Michigan State gets blown out on Saturday, they still are going to the BCS before Baylor.


This is why I am so glad the BCS is dead. Deserving teams with shitty matchups is one thing, but undeserving teams and shitty matchups is another.

Clemson(coming off a loss) gets a BCS bowl but South Carolina doesn't.
Michigan State(coming off a loss) gets a BCS bowl but Baylor doesn't.
Central Florida & Northern Illinois get a BCS bowl but Auburn or Mizzou won't.

Pass over 3 top ten teams and take 4 teams that won't finish in the BCS Top 10.
Posted by KosmoCramer
Member since Dec 2007
76516 posts
Posted on 12/3/13 at 3:51 pm to
Does the comittee put all the teams in every bowl, or just the top four?


I haven't even thought about that.
Posted by BoatSchoolTiger
Houston, TX
Member since May 2013
659 posts
Posted on 12/3/13 at 4:05 pm to
quote:

Baylor's stadium only seats 50k

they have only filled it to that capacity 6 times in their history and 4 of those were against A&M traveling in high numbers due to us being so close to them. The other two were against Texas (1960) and OU (2013).

their fan base does not travel for shite either.

they only bought 800 tickets out of 3k to their last game in Kyle Field


This stat is used everytime someone says Baylor in this Board. Aggies...smh
Posted by StraightCashHomey21
Aberdeen,NC
Member since Jul 2009
125398 posts
Posted on 12/3/13 at 4:10 pm to
quote:

Well Virginia Tech (11-2) got an at-large over teams that deserved it more back in 11.



and it back fired, they didn't even come close to selling their tickets. UM did but the VT invite was an egg on the face.
Posted by BeYou
DFW
Member since Oct 2012
6025 posts
Posted on 12/3/13 at 4:35 pm to
quote:

They also returned 3000 of 3800 for their game against Oklahoma State this year.


We had to return the tickeys by 7/1.

Plus tickets through other means (ticketmaster, stubhub, etc) are much cheaper.

Regardless, we have a small fan base. It is as simple as that.
Posted by lsutothetop
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Member since Jul 2008
11323 posts
Posted on 12/3/13 at 4:37 pm to
Baylor doesn't travel for shite compared to Clemson
Posted by BeYou
DFW
Member since Oct 2012
6025 posts
Posted on 12/3/13 at 4:37 pm to
quote:

Baylor's stadium only seats 50k

they have only filled it to that capacity 6 times in their history and 4 of those were against A&M traveling in high numbers due to us being so close to them. The other two were against Texas (1960) and OU (2013).

their fan base does not travel for shite either.

they only bought 800 tickets out of 3k to their last game in Kyle Field


We have traveled well for both bowl games.

12,500 undergrad and a 50,0000 stadium usually leads to poor showing. Floyd Casey was simply just too large.

Our attendance will never be the likes of UT, A&M, any large public school. We just don't have the number of alumni.
Posted by Rig
BHM
Member since Aug 2011
41856 posts
Posted on 12/3/13 at 4:42 pm to
quote:

Plus tickets through other means (ticketmaster, stubhub, etc) are much cheaper.
So either stubhub had tickets below face value or Oklahoma State who gave them to Baylor for face value turned and tried to sell them for more than face value.... which one are you gonna go with?
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