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Why letting go of Les will prove to be a mistake, a non-LSU fans take
Posted on 11/27/15 at 5:34 pm
Posted on 11/27/15 at 5:34 pm
I know there are multiple threads on the Rant, but posting there feels like I'm taking a canoe trip with Ned Beatty.
Besides this isn't just LSU its any team making a knee jerk reaction change in today's College Football world
In many ways all this reminds of when A&M ( another team I'm not a fan of) let go of Coach Slocum. A good coach who ran a clean program and brought solid success to a University. I don't think A&M has ever been as good ( save one game here or there) as they were when Slocum was HC, invest some $$ in the program/ facilities back them and A&M would be better than a mid-tier team that was basically ran out of the state of Texas to be mediocre in the SEC
Les while not a great game day coach ( leave that to the Coordinators) has been a GREAT advocate for LSU and recruiter. LSU by most accounts is a clean program with a few problems, but nothing compared to the shite show FSU has been under Jimbo. And as a flagship University for a State, its something to consider.
LSU makes this change you might have a small spike year one,, maybe two years. Then you will see a slide back and other SEC schools will pass you by while you need to fire coaches, suspend players and clean house.
Spend more money on Coordinators, make a 2-3 yr plan for Les to retire and have the new HC on staff and prepared to make a smooth transition and follow Les' lead on the things he's done right.
It wasn't all that long ago BS ( Before Saban) that LSU was just a better than average team that no one outside the gulf stats paid any attention to
Besides this isn't just LSU its any team making a knee jerk reaction change in today's College Football world
In many ways all this reminds of when A&M ( another team I'm not a fan of) let go of Coach Slocum. A good coach who ran a clean program and brought solid success to a University. I don't think A&M has ever been as good ( save one game here or there) as they were when Slocum was HC, invest some $$ in the program/ facilities back them and A&M would be better than a mid-tier team that was basically ran out of the state of Texas to be mediocre in the SEC
Les while not a great game day coach ( leave that to the Coordinators) has been a GREAT advocate for LSU and recruiter. LSU by most accounts is a clean program with a few problems, but nothing compared to the shite show FSU has been under Jimbo. And as a flagship University for a State, its something to consider.
LSU makes this change you might have a small spike year one,, maybe two years. Then you will see a slide back and other SEC schools will pass you by while you need to fire coaches, suspend players and clean house.
Spend more money on Coordinators, make a 2-3 yr plan for Les to retire and have the new HC on staff and prepared to make a smooth transition and follow Les' lead on the things he's done right.
It wasn't all that long ago BS ( Before Saban) that LSU was just a better than average team that no one outside the gulf stats paid any attention to
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Posted on 11/27/15 at 5:35 pm to OWLFAN86
quote:
Spend more money on Coordinators,
LSU already has the highest paid staff
Posted on 11/27/15 at 5:35 pm to OWLFAN86
quote:
Spend more money on Coordinators
Posted on 11/27/15 at 5:36 pm to OWLFAN86
Why spend more money on coordinators if he doesn't let them do their job?
Posted on 11/27/15 at 5:36 pm to OWLFAN86
End of the day, the person they hire will define if this was a good or bad move.
Posted on 11/27/15 at 5:37 pm to OWLFAN86
quote:you think a&m isn't good now? What do you think Slocums last 4 years where?
I don't think A&M has ever been as good ( save one game here or there) as they were when Slocum was HC
quote:the exact thing that wasn't happening under Slocum?
invest some $$ in the program/ facilities back them
quote:
that was basically ran out of the state of Texas to be mediocre in the SEC
This post was edited on 11/27/15 at 5:43 pm
Posted on 11/27/15 at 5:38 pm to OWLFAN86
LSU spends the most on coordinators in the entire country
We literally had another university file a lawsuit against us to make us keep playing football in the state of Texas
We literally had another university file a lawsuit against us to make us keep playing football in the state of Texas
This post was edited on 11/27/15 at 5:38 pm
Posted on 11/27/15 at 5:38 pm to ShaneTheLegLechler
ITT someone says a&m has been mediocre in the SEC while praising a&m under Slocum
Posted on 11/27/15 at 5:39 pm to NorthshoreTiger76
quote:but to get the NEXT HC you would need to spend more. Find that QB coach and Defensive line coach that everyone agrees will be the next big thing... if they know this is a "try-out,, be a GREAT OC or DC and youre the next HC at LSU
LSU already has the highest paid staff
a good hungry young coach and the LONG TERM benefit they can strive for is a good combination that not many programs can do
Posted on 11/27/15 at 5:40 pm to OWLFAN86
It's not as simple as throwing money at coordinators. There have been many OCs under Les and it's been the same antiquated offense each time.
I appreciate that you feel LSU has been "clean" under Les, but there have been multiple incidents under his reign, like there will be at any major program. Les has been fortunate to avoid major controversy, but that's just as much luck as anything.
I appreciate that you feel LSU has been "clean" under Les, but there have been multiple incidents under his reign, like there will be at any major program. Les has been fortunate to avoid major controversy, but that's just as much luck as anything.
Posted on 11/27/15 at 5:41 pm to OWLFAN86
Who'd A&M hire? I don't recall.
You can say it but doesn't mean its true. Depends on who the hire is. Period. And I don't like any of this shite happening but these blanket "you'll regret it because a&m hired the wrong guy" threads are quite dumb
You can say it but doesn't mean its true. Depends on who the hire is. Period. And I don't like any of this shite happening but these blanket "you'll regret it because a&m hired the wrong guy" threads are quite dumb
Posted on 11/27/15 at 5:42 pm to OWLFAN86
quote:
LSU by most accounts is a clean program with a few problems, but nothing compared to the shite show FSU has been under Jimbo.
LSU has had A LOT of high profile players with problems under Miles.
Ryan P
JJ
Jeremy Hill
Heisman Candidate Tyrann Mathieu?
In the past 5 years FSU has had 19 arrested players and LSU has had 16.
The difference isnt big enough for me to be concerned
Alabama has had 18 so....
Posted on 11/27/15 at 5:44 pm to OWLFAN86
I am a big Miles fan, just wanted to get that out of the way. With all do respect and I say that because your not being the typical Owlie just stirring shite. You don't quite know what your talking about. This wasn't a knee jerk reaction. Our facilities are among the top 5% in the country. Our staff is the highest paid in the country. I would love your idea of leaving it to the coordinators. Les has just been unable or unwilling to do this. That's what his ultimate down fall is.
Posted on 11/27/15 at 5:45 pm to WestCoastAg
quote:Slocum had a solid clean program, a GREAT defense,
ITT someone says a&m has been mediocre in the SEC while praising a&m under Slocum
shitty offense.
had they made the investment in facilities then that they are doing know and hired, say a up and coming HS coach in the state that ran the spread. and bring that to A&M
aggies would have had something
regardless acting as opposed to reacting and they might still have the same HC and some consistency which you need to be successful long term
A&M spikes and then is back to being A&M a meh team that plays in a bowl game before the year ends
same could happen to LSU
Posted on 11/27/15 at 5:45 pm to TheWalrus
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It's not as simple as throwing money at coordinators. There have been many OCs under Les and it's been the same antiquated offense each time.
I was watching some highlights of today's games, and I saw Oregon State's offense run a jet sweep motion, from which the QB faked to the sweep man, and ran a QB draw (kind of delayed, so I'm calling it a draw). I thought, why the hell couldn't we be doing this?
Posted on 11/27/15 at 5:46 pm to OWLFAN86
Rice never should've fired Ken Hatfield
Posted on 11/27/15 at 5:47 pm to Ponchy Tiger
quote:frick you "the canoe trip with Ned Beatty" was a classic line
With all do respect and I say that because your not being the typical Owlie just stirring shite.
Posted on 11/27/15 at 5:48 pm to OWLFAN86
quote:something that already wasnt happening under Slocum and didn't happen again for another 10 years after him
had they made the investment in facilities then that they are doing know and hired, say a up and coming HS coach in the state that ran the spread. and bring that to A&M
quote:the last 4 years under Slocum A&M went 29-19. The first four years under Sumlin a&m has gone 36-14. I'm not trying to defend sumlin, but it 100% was Slocums time to go. Our lack of effort in maintaining our facilities during the mid to late 90s and all of the 2000s is like one of the top 2 or 3 reasons why a&m did so poorly that decade
A&M spikes and then is back to being A&M a meh team that plays in a bowl game before the year ends
This post was edited on 11/27/15 at 5:51 pm
Posted on 11/27/15 at 5:51 pm to WestCoastAg
quote:
the exact thing that wasn't happening under Slocum?
it wasnt actually.
Wally Groff was an uber penny pincher. They didn't start investing until his last couple of years and by then they were so far behind it was too late.
His office was attached to a fricking parking garage and was so small that there wasn't enough room for a recruit and both his parents to sit down.
This post was edited on 11/27/15 at 5:53 pm
Posted on 11/27/15 at 5:52 pm to Dr RC
Thats the point I'm making
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