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re: Why is football such a target in the media?
Posted on 2/6/16 at 8:22 pm to SlowFlowPro
Posted on 2/6/16 at 8:22 pm to SlowFlowPro
An emotional argument is one where you're predictably taking the same side all the time, blaming the same kinds of "culprits" while reaffirming your one-dimensional worldview. Some people blame the NFL; some apparently blame the union. You predictably fall into the latter group. In reality, everyone is to blame. That's the rational take in this scenario.
You've also managed to explain why the media, comprised of humans, might blame the soulless, big bad corporation.
Also, tying this whole ordeal to feminists doesn't strike me as rational and emotionless.
You've also managed to explain why the media, comprised of humans, might blame the soulless, big bad corporation.
Also, tying this whole ordeal to feminists doesn't strike me as rational and emotionless.
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Posted on 2/6/16 at 8:23 pm to sms151t
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The NFLPA has allowed its own members wear outdated and equipment that's not even manufactured anymore and bargained out the practice and game helment out of use in NFL.
I do not understand why they yell safety yet have negotiated to allow an unsafe practices regarding the most essential equipment to continue.
i can answer that
because they KNOW they will get an illegal and improper "second chance" if they get the media on board to carry their water
hell even courts are looking outside of the law to punish the NFL for this when there is a very strong argument that there is no legal case
this unstable, insane system is what happens when you allow emotional arguments to "Win" after the fact
Posted on 2/6/16 at 8:24 pm to PatDyesPants
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Why is football such a target in the media?
contrarian society
Posted on 2/6/16 at 8:25 pm to lsutigers1992
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Four major sports news outlets are direct business partners with the NFL and either ignore many negative stories, do damage control, and are blatant mouthpieces for the league.
But yeah, keep pushing that "liberal media" narrative. You know--the "liberal media" that are owned by some of the biggest corporations and capitalists on the planet.
You mean like those commies at NBC, who had the No. 1-rated show in all of primetime by way of Sunday Night Football?
Posted on 2/6/16 at 8:26 pm to mattz1122
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An emotional argument is one where you're predictably taking the same side all the time, blaming the same kinds of "culprits" while reaffirming your one-dimensional worldview.
yeah like arguing against "big corporations" and defending the "little guy" in order to do just that. that's exactly my point
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In reality, everyone is to blame.
nope. only one side...at least since the players forced collective bargaining on the NFL. you can argue there was no duty prior to that (although i don't think the science was available to make the argument so it's likely a moot point)
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You've also managed to explain why the media, comprised of humans, might blame the soulless, big bad corporation.
because the NFLPA fricked up and/or the players don't give a shite about this if it affects their bottom line?
we don't even know if the players would get behind these rules if this had to be negotiated in a CBA. they may rather the higher revenue split or some other benefit.
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tying this whole ordeal to feminists doesn't strike me as rational and emotionless.
progressives. feminists are just a subset of that mindset
Posted on 2/6/16 at 8:30 pm to SlowFlowPro
You have strong emotions against feminists/progressives, but I wouldn't expect that to cloud your judgement.
Posted on 2/6/16 at 8:32 pm to SlowFlowPro
What I find troubling is that the NFLPA does not assist in any of the rea search in NOCSAE yet the NFL does, but it's the NFL's fault.
I am not positive, but I believe the NFL does not have the NOCSAE warning stickers that are required in every level of football, unless they have them inside the hat, which is ok.
But I do know your hat does not have to be certified by NOCSAE to be used.
MLB is the only other league/association that I know of that non NOCSAE approved headware is allowed
I am not positive, but I believe the NFL does not have the NOCSAE warning stickers that are required in every level of football, unless they have them inside the hat, which is ok.
But I do know your hat does not have to be certified by NOCSAE to be used.
MLB is the only other league/association that I know of that non NOCSAE approved headware is allowed
This post was edited on 2/6/16 at 8:36 pm
Posted on 2/6/16 at 8:35 pm to mattz1122
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You have strong emotions against feminists/progressives,
no not emotions. i don't really get upset or angry or anything. i think their mindset is toxic and inefficient at its mildest and authoritarian at its worst. this is on the toxic/inefficient side of things
i can put it this way. why do the players get to keep all their negotiated gains in the last CBA and then force the NFL to act outside of the CBA to right some wrong? how is that efficient or moral? why do they get to change the deal after the fact, as they go along?
now if the NFL and NFLPA were forced to go back and negotiate a new CBA every time some health crisis emerged? i'd say OK
but they're not. the NFLPA gets to force the NFL to act when it negotiates a bad deal, and that power is one-sided
Posted on 2/6/16 at 8:36 pm to sms151t
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What I find troubling is that the NFLPA does not assist in any of the rea search in NOCSAE yet the NFL does, but it's the NFL's fault.
because it's a one-sided paradigm
we have been so programmed to support the "little guy" that it just seems natural to demand these scenarios
this is just one of those rare scenarios where the "little guy" had full authority to negotiate on its behalf and failed to do so
Posted on 2/6/16 at 9:31 pm to SlowFlowPro
It's not about the feminization of America, it's about turning it into Europe, and by that I mean soccer. The socialist utopian societies of Europe are a liberal's wet dream and soccer is Europe's sport. It doesn't matter whether soccer has it's own concussion issues or not.
Soccer also fits into the feminization narrative as that sport is all about soccer mom's and sharing (passing) the ball for the delight of the mommies. Any of you have young kids? Any of you watch their cartoons? Soccer is shoved down their throats, football rarely mentioned. Soccer is the safe sport that fits the mommy and European/enlightened narrative the libs are striving for. Football is just way too aggressive and way too masculine for the progressives.
Soccer also fits into the feminization narrative as that sport is all about soccer mom's and sharing (passing) the ball for the delight of the mommies. Any of you have young kids? Any of you watch their cartoons? Soccer is shoved down their throats, football rarely mentioned. Soccer is the safe sport that fits the mommy and European/enlightened narrative the libs are striving for. Football is just way too aggressive and way too masculine for the progressives.
Posted on 2/6/16 at 11:11 pm to PatDyesPants
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There seem to be daily negative stories about the consequences of playing football, most of them aimed at the NFL. What is really driving this?
$$$
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