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re: Why does the NFL care if players smoke weed?

Posted on 12/11/13 at 10:10 am to
Posted by timbo
Red Stick, La.
Member since Dec 2011
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Posted on 12/11/13 at 10:10 am to
How is the NFL going to handle it when guys who play for the Broncos or Seahawks test positive for weed? I mean, it's legal in those cities.
Personally, I think drug testing is the biggest bunch of BS in the world, unless you work in an industry where it's a life-or-death thing if you get high. If you have to get baked after work to deal with being a Walmart cashier, who cares? No different than getting slap-assed drunk after work to deal with being a Walmart cashier.
This post was edited on 12/11/13 at 10:12 am
Posted by Wooly
Member since Feb 2012
13851 posts
Posted on 12/11/13 at 10:15 am to
Image of the league... not that weed is their biggest problem.

But they want to portray being role models
Posted by DelU249
Austria
Member since Dec 2010
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Posted on 12/11/13 at 10:19 am to
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Personally, I think drug testing is the biggest bunch of BS in the world,


Employers pay for productivity
Weed is not very conducive to that
Posted by Black n Gold
Member since Feb 2009
15408 posts
Posted on 12/11/13 at 10:29 am to
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Personally, I think drug testing is the biggest bunch of BS in the world, unless you work in an industry where it's a life-or-death thing if you get high.


Someone here has not achieved manger status.
Posted by timbo
Red Stick, La.
Member since Dec 2011
7306 posts
Posted on 12/11/13 at 10:57 am to
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Employers pay for productivity
Weed is not very conducive to that


There's a lot of things that aren't conducive to productivity. Getting drunk during the work week. Going out on a Tuesday night and chasing tail. Playing XBox until 2 a.m. Staying up all night watching old Sopranos episodes on HBO Go. You don't get tested for those things. If you wanna juggle that shite and can pull it off, it's ok. Should be the same with getting high.
Posted by lsu2006
BR
Member since Feb 2004
39979 posts
Posted on 12/11/13 at 2:27 pm to
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There's a lot of things that aren't conducive to productivity. Getting drunk during the work week. Going out on a Tuesday night and chasing tail. Playing XBox until 2 a.m. Staying up all night watching old Sopranos episodes on HBO Go. You don't get tested for those things. If you wanna juggle that shite and can pull it off, it's ok. Should be the same with getting high.

Holy shite you're stupid. And I'm a HUGE proponent of legalizing weed.
Posted by TheCaterpillar
Member since Jan 2004
76774 posts
Posted on 12/11/13 at 2:33 pm to
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not for seattle or denver...


Yes it is until January 1st.


But I agree with the OP. If they play in a city where it's legal, let em smoke. Certainly not an advantage.

Also, I bet the NFL abides by Federal Law more than State Law.
Posted by TheCaterpillar
Member since Jan 2004
76774 posts
Posted on 12/11/13 at 2:36 pm to
and LOL at people bringing up drug testing for weed when it is painfully obvious there is rampant steroid and HGH use in the NFL and NCAA. The guys who retire immediately lose all their muscle mass and no one looks like some of these guys without PEDs. Laron Landry 100% was on them and probably still is.

(I'm ok with HGH if taken for injury rehab, but different topic for different day)
Posted by tigeroarz1
Winston-Salem, NC
Member since Oct 2013
3371 posts
Posted on 12/11/13 at 7:01 pm to
Performance on the field would be a good reason. Some people can perform at a high level on weed (Jim Hendrix) and others don't show up to work at all. Not against weed at all but it affects people differently. The NFL wants a quality product.
Posted by Vicks Kennel Club
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Member since Dec 2010
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Posted on 12/11/13 at 7:55 pm to
I like to believe Ricky Williams is the answer to this question.

Th03 had a very good response that I think anyone with a brain should realize.
This post was edited on 12/11/13 at 9:45 pm
Posted by DEANintheYAY
LEFT COAST
Member since Jan 2008
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Posted on 12/11/13 at 8:12 pm to
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Weed is not very conducive to that


Perhaps not for you, but not everyone falls into that category.
Posted by Vicks Kennel Club
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Member since Dec 2010
31061 posts
Posted on 12/11/13 at 9:44 pm to
But it still affects some people negatively, so why you would your employees to do that if they had the choice?
Posted by H-Town Tiger
Member since Nov 2003
59101 posts
Posted on 12/11/13 at 9:49 pm to
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But it still affects some people negatively, so why you would your employees to do that if they had the choice?


Assuming they are not doing it at work. What they do in their own time is their businesses, as long as they show up and do their work. As someone else mentioned, there are lots of perfectly legal activities that if abused can affect productivity.

ETA: The only reason it is tested for is because it is illegal, which is completely ridiculous.
This post was edited on 12/11/13 at 9:50 pm
Posted by reb13
Member since May 2010
10905 posts
Posted on 12/11/13 at 9:51 pm to
Hasn't hurt the nba being so lax about weed.
Posted by reb13
Member since May 2010
10905 posts
Posted on 12/11/13 at 9:56 pm to
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ETA: The only reason it is tested for is because it is illegal, which is completely ridiculous.



But if they are incarcerated they cannot perform their job.
Posted by HempHead
Big Sky Country
Member since Mar 2011
55443 posts
Posted on 12/11/13 at 10:17 pm to
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But if they are incarcerated they cannot perform their job.


You have to try pretty fricking hard to get locked up for simple posession, especially if you are a professional athlete.
Posted by Hopeful Doc
Member since Sep 2010
14947 posts
Posted on 12/11/13 at 10:20 pm to
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but IMO it's dumb for the NFL as a whole.

They want to provide good, clean entertainment for friends and families to watch, with admirable people on the field to further promote a good image and give kids real-life 'heroes' to aspire to be or be like. Felonies are not admirable.
Posted by Hopeful Doc
Member since Sep 2010
14947 posts
Posted on 12/11/13 at 10:23 pm to
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I mean, it's legal in those cities.


No, it isn't. Those cities are in the United States of America which has a federal law dictating the illegality of the substance for use by human beings.
Posted by Hopeful Doc
Member since Sep 2010
14947 posts
Posted on 12/11/13 at 10:38 pm to
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If you have to get baked after work to deal with being a Walmart cashier, who cares? No different than getting slap-assed drunk after work to deal with being a Walmart cashier


Assignment for you since I don't feel like looking up the hard and fast numbers: go read about pharmacological half-lives and what they mean. Then look up the half-life of alcohol. Then look up the half-life of thc. Then look up the effects of repeated use and storage/elimination in the body. Once you have done that, you should be able to tell me why it's extremely different to have a drink after work 7 nights a week vs smoking marijuana 7 nights a week 'on your own personal time.'

Oddly enough, by this same token, you may say 'oh, well cocaine gets out of your system fast! Why not let it be used in one's leisure time?' Cocaine, among others, have high potential for death with minimal use, because it can induce a heart attack at extremely low doses.

IV drugs are a public health hazard and also can acutely cause major issues from improper use (assuming here that a 'proper' way refers to the administration of the drug and not the socio-moral meaning of the word 'proper.')

A lot of people don't realize that each individual drug actually has a rather well thought-out reason for its banishment, personal opinions of those agreements aside, each one makes a valid point. Why tobacco and alcohol remain legal are somewhat baffling. How it's OK to pop caffeine pills and drink coffee but not coca tea is a little annoying. In the end, it is all done in the best interest of the country, and it looks as though, for whatever reason, a vast number of citizens seems be willing to remove the stigma from another drug (weed). At present, it looks like the ball is rolling for the legalization nation-wide (though I don't necessarily agree with it, I do choose to live in a democracy and would not feel as if it were the worst law ever passed), but I think the next President will make the teetering movement go one way or the other. He'll either squash it with massive FBI enforcement and fines to the states, and it won't be tried again for several decades, or he will back it fully and force a small revenue stream to the federal government. I am actually interested to see how it turns out.
Posted by bbrownso
Member since Mar 2008
8985 posts
Posted on 12/11/13 at 10:46 pm to
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How is the NFL going to handle it when guys who play for the Broncos or Seahawks test positive for weed?


They'll follow the mutually agreed upon process in the CBA. Which could mean the player gets suspended for a certain number of games or even indefinitely suspended (basically a year but considered open-ended).

I'm sure that if marijuana is legalized on the federal level, then the players can negotiate the next CBA to allow it's use. Until that time, the NFL will follow the government's lead since they give them an anti-trust exemption.
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