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re: Why do they not call traveling in basketball anymore?
Posted on 3/26/17 at 5:13 pm to Prominentwon
Posted on 3/26/17 at 5:13 pm to Prominentwon
It has always been bad in the NBA, but its creeping into college now too unfortunately
I watched the NCAA tourney first couple of days from a hotel room last week and I am sure the housekeepers thought I was a travel agent with how many times I screamed out TRAVEL!!!
I watched the NCAA tourney first couple of days from a hotel room last week and I am sure the housekeepers thought I was a travel agent with how many times I screamed out TRAVEL!!!
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Posted on 3/26/17 at 5:13 pm to mizzoubuckeyeiowa
Then they screwed up that call, as such was never travelling-- its an offense called carrying.
Posted on 3/26/17 at 5:16 pm to Prominentwon
When you shoot or pass, you get to jump off the pivot foot.
If you dribble, you cannot lift the pivot.
What athletes are doing is using a one foot jump stop. That is how they do some of this legally. Good footwork like McHale had can look like a travel, but it is not.
I agree they do miss some 5 step travels.
If you dribble, you cannot lift the pivot.
What athletes are doing is using a one foot jump stop. That is how they do some of this legally. Good footwork like McHale had can look like a travel, but it is not.
I agree they do miss some 5 step travels.
Posted on 3/26/17 at 5:16 pm to GreatLakesTiger24
even in hs they won't call carrying unless the ball is over your sholders or the play gives you an advantage if i'm walking the ball up and half carrying the ball up until a defender is on e they won't call it it's actully hard to not carry it's the natural motion i used to drible up between my legs to prevent carrying you can't carry and dribble between your legs
Posted on 3/26/17 at 5:21 pm to GreatLakesTiger24
Yeah...but I don't think a lot of young guys realize the reality of what traveling really was.
It went from...loping with a ball...to taking 4-5 steps.
There is no sport - that hasn't enjoyed playing with their rules to increase fan support...so I don't blame Stern...(well I blame him)
But football ended up doing the same thing...and changing the NFL with their non-contact rules.
But Stern really totally changed the NBA...and he made them a lot of money because it embraced the Globetrotter model. Is this basketball? Answer...nobody seemed to care. Stern won. You can manufacture real sports at a high level for profit. He proved that.
It went from...loping with a ball...to taking 4-5 steps.
There is no sport - that hasn't enjoyed playing with their rules to increase fan support...so I don't blame Stern...(well I blame him)
But football ended up doing the same thing...and changing the NFL with their non-contact rules.
But Stern really totally changed the NBA...and he made them a lot of money because it embraced the Globetrotter model. Is this basketball? Answer...nobody seemed to care. Stern won. You can manufacture real sports at a high level for profit. He proved that.
Posted on 3/26/17 at 5:22 pm to mizzoubuckeyeiowa
That's carrying, a totally different infraction. That's one they legit call maybe once in ten games.
Posted on 3/26/17 at 5:35 pm to goldennugget
Do they even call carrying anymore?
Posted on 3/26/17 at 5:39 pm to TheWalrus
Same thing really...
Carrying was traveling, traveling was carrying...
Basically the same infraction for a missed bounce of the ball.
And the point was...just like traveling, nobody calls this stuff anymore.
Curry could take four steps without a bounce while dribbling...
Carrying...traveling...nothing. No foul called. At all.
What is this sport?
Slam ball? LeBron ball? Can we change the name to account for what is on court?
Nothing happens for infractions. The game has completely changed. I don't even know what is a foul today or even what is illegal.
Carrying was traveling, traveling was carrying...
Basically the same infraction for a missed bounce of the ball.
And the point was...just like traveling, nobody calls this stuff anymore.
Curry could take four steps without a bounce while dribbling...
Carrying...traveling...nothing. No foul called. At all.
What is this sport?
Slam ball? LeBron ball? Can we change the name to account for what is on court? Nothing happens for infractions. The game has completely changed. I don't even know what is a foul today or even what is illegal.
This post was edited on 3/26/17 at 5:41 pm
Posted on 3/26/17 at 5:45 pm to TbirdSpur2010
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They do. Plenty.
No, no they don't. And don't even get me started on 3 seconds. Is that even a rule any more?
Posted on 3/26/17 at 5:49 pm to Prominentwon
This thread raises an important point.
If you had to play by the rules back in the day...like real basketball...what is your legacy?
But then you didn't...have to play by the rules? Why should you be rewarded in history? When you had it so much easier?
And you could just run to the basket like Usain Bolt or Lebron James...
How much should that affect your legacy? Will historians recognize how the game changed for TV?
Considering the advantage modern players get. Like, the rules of basketball don't matter anymore. It's all just entertainment.
If you had to play by the rules back in the day...like real basketball...what is your legacy?
But then you didn't...have to play by the rules? Why should you be rewarded in history? When you had it so much easier?
And you could just run to the basket like Usain Bolt or Lebron James...
How much should that affect your legacy? Will historians recognize how the game changed for TV?
Considering the advantage modern players get. Like, the rules of basketball don't matter anymore. It's all just entertainment.
This post was edited on 3/26/17 at 5:51 pm
Posted on 3/26/17 at 5:50 pm to mizzoubuckeyeiowa
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He got called for traveling because he wasn't patty-caking the ball...hand always on top.
This is ugly to watch and a good change
Posted on 3/26/17 at 5:55 pm to vengeanceofrain
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even in hs they won't call carrying unless the ball is over your sholders
Because that is not a infraction. If you see this called it is because a real travel or carry accompanied it. But doing just that alone is not a TO
Posted on 3/26/17 at 6:15 pm to LittleRockHog501
Lebron does whatever he wants.
Posted on 3/26/17 at 6:18 pm to Prominentwon
Dr J and MJ sold a lot of clothes.
refs let them walk.
its awful.
They also allow palming.
Magic Johnson palmed the ball so little guys could not steal him blind.
refs ruined the game.
baseball is about the same, because umps invented a bs strike zone which eliminated the high hard one and now you can't throw it 4 inches above the belt right down the middle, or its a ball.
Alas. refs suck. walking. carrying.
refs let them walk.
its awful.
They also allow palming.
Magic Johnson palmed the ball so little guys could not steal him blind.
refs ruined the game.
baseball is about the same, because umps invented a bs strike zone which eliminated the high hard one and now you can't throw it 4 inches above the belt right down the middle, or its a ball.
Alas. refs suck. walking. carrying.
Posted on 3/26/17 at 6:27 pm to mizzoubuckeyeiowa
I remember what Prom. is saying and what you are saying from playing ball.
I got called on travels and carry or whatever you'd call that normal dribble people use today. The slight carry, spin, arc-stall they do all the time.
I got called on travels and carry or whatever you'd call that normal dribble people use today. The slight carry, spin, arc-stall they do all the time.
Posted on 3/26/17 at 6:30 pm to Geauxlden Eagle
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No, no they don't.
Yes, yes they do.
Posted on 3/26/17 at 6:34 pm to Prominentwon
They've called a ton of traveling in this tourney
Posted on 3/26/17 at 6:46 pm to mizzoubuckeyeiowa
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That gif is funny because in 1988 in high school - one of our players got called for traveling because he was...doing the normal today dribble...bringing the ball up and turning your hand over...underneath the ball to over the ball - everything everyone does today.
He got called for traveling because he wasn't patty-caking the ball...hand always on top.
and that's why high school refs suck... nobody goes to games to watch refs call traveling, but high school refs have to show the kids who's boss
Posted on 3/26/17 at 6:49 pm to chalmetteowl
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nobody goes to games to watch refs call traveling
So just let the players make up the rules as they go?
Posted on 3/26/17 at 6:52 pm to Prominentwon
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So just let the players make up the rules as they go?
no worse than the refs making them up...
that gif of Bron above, what advantage was he gaining? a ref making a traveling call there is solely about himself and his own tv time, not about the game and the players involved
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