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Why did Clemson go for 2 last night on thier last TD?

Posted on 10/2/16 at 1:32 pm
Posted by CaptainBrannigan
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Posted on 10/2/16 at 1:32 pm
I asked last night and never got a good answer. Why exactly did they go for two up by 4 points? If Louisville had driven for a td on its last drive; then Clemson would have had the opportunity to win the game with a late FG if they were up by 5. But missing the 2 point try a late field goal would at best tie the game.

Seems like a coaching blunder by Dabo that he got away with. That is twice this season.
Posted by Butch stones
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Posted on 10/2/16 at 1:34 pm to
To get it to 6 in case UL scored and missed or shamed an XP
Posted by SlowEasyConfident
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Posted by Nonetheless
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Posted by Cap Crunch
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Posted on 10/2/16 at 1:35 pm to
I honestly didn't get it either, unless Louisville's kicker is really shaky
Posted by Chicken
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Posted on 10/2/16 at 1:36 pm to
Being up by 6 is better than being up by 4 or 5?
This post was edited on 10/2/16 at 1:39 pm
Posted by CaptainBrannigan
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Posted on 10/2/16 at 1:36 pm to
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To get it to 6 in case UL scored and missed or shamed an XP



That is not a reason to go for 2 points.
Posted by JG77056
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Posted on 10/2/16 at 1:37 pm to
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then Clemson would have had the opportunity to win the game with a late FG if they were up by 5.


Why wouldn't Louisville have then gone for 2 if they scored to go up 3?
Posted by TigerBait2008
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Posted on 10/2/16 at 1:37 pm to
You seriously this dumb?

Wait just realized who OP was..
Posted by TallMan
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Posted on 10/2/16 at 1:41 pm to
I'm pretty sure it was in hopes of blocking an extra point if they gave up a touchdown to Louisville. Personally I do think giving up a touchdown and then getting a FG is more likely, so I agree kicking the extra point would have been a better decision, but I don't think it was such a clear decision that I'd consider it a blunder.
Posted by TheWalrus
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Posted on 10/2/16 at 1:46 pm to
They already blocked an extra point, why is that not a reason? Sounds like a good reason to me.
Posted by MSMHater
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Posted on 10/2/16 at 1:49 pm to
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That is not a reason to go for 2 points.


Posted by CaptainBrannigan
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Posted on 10/2/16 at 1:49 pm to
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Why wouldn't Louisville have then gone for 2 if they scored to go up 3?




Then a late FG would have tied the game for Clemson. So it is still not a viable reason to go for 2.
Posted by DawgCountry
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Posted on 10/2/16 at 1:52 pm to
Too dumb for a real answer
Posted by JG77056
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Posted on 10/2/16 at 1:52 pm to
quote:

Then a late FG would have tied the game for Clemson. So it is still not a viable reason to go for 2.


So whether they get the 2 points or not they still would have a chance to tie Louisville with a FG. If they scored. So there's zero downside to risking it. On the other hand if you get it you still have a chance of blocking an extra point, which you've already done once in the game.

Where is the lack of reason?
Posted by Chicken
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Posted on 10/2/16 at 1:54 pm to
Being that there was 3:14 left in game after Clemson scored, going for 1 probably makes more sense if you think there is a good chance that Louisville would score a TD quickly.

I guess he had to weigh which was more likely:

1. Louisville would score a TD (and make the XP) and leave enough time for Clemson to drive into FG range.

2. Louisville would score a TD and possibly miss the XP.
This post was edited on 10/2/16 at 2:03 pm
Posted by SG_Geaux
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Posted on 10/2/16 at 1:56 pm to
OP if you can't understand that needing a TD AND an XP to win is harder than just needing a TD to win then you can't be helped.
Posted by CaptainBrannigan
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Posted on 10/2/16 at 1:56 pm to
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So whether they get the 2 points or not they still would have a chance to tie Louisville with a FG


No. Because if they missed the 2pts and UL got a 2pt conversion that is 4 points, forcing Clemson to drive for a TD.

The chances of blocking a second xp are miniscule, thus should not be factored into the decision.

Guess this is the same reasoning that led Dabo to bypass a late FG at Auburn when he was up by 6 points.
Posted by JG77056
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Posted on 10/2/16 at 1:59 pm to
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No. Because if they missed the 2pts and UL got a 2pt conversion that is 4 points, forcing Clemson to drive for a TD.


Ah, so you think Louisville would go for 2 up 2. Nevermind, didn't realize what kind of idiot we were dealing with.
Posted by CaptainBrannigan
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Posted on 10/2/16 at 2:05 pm to
No. You said there is zero risk. I'm saying the risk of missing is certainly valid. Game theory of counting on blocking a second extra point is just as valid as UL going for 2.
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