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re: Why are people acting like Adrian Peterson was punching his son in the face?
Posted on 9/15/14 at 6:20 pm to StringedInstruments
Posted on 9/15/14 at 6:20 pm to StringedInstruments
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You're an idiot.
I've seen my fair share of 4-5 year olds from my friends. None of them spank the kids and all of them are total brats (outside of one) that have no respect for authority/adults. One of the kids already got sent home from school in pre-k4 because the kid didn't want to follow instructions. What did the parent do? Bitch the teacher and not the kid.
Parenting/Children's behavior go hand-in-hand.
But I guess you're fine with your kid being a brat throughout their lives.
This post was edited on 9/15/14 at 6:22 pm
Posted on 9/15/14 at 6:23 pm to htran90
This
is a far bigger explanation for the kid's discipline problems than this:
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What did the parent do? Bitch the teacher and not the kid
is a far bigger explanation for the kid's discipline problems than this:
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None of them spank the kids
Posted on 9/15/14 at 6:25 pm to htran90
well crap the other thread is saying he is being investigated for striking his son in the head area.. so..
Posted on 9/15/14 at 6:31 pm to PrimeTime Money
Dude....why justify this shite? This is clearly abuse, look at the pictures! It's more than just a few whelps! The guy went way overboard in his punishment and it's both physical and emotional abuse. My grandmother used to make me pick a switch to whip me with when I acted out..she hit me maybe once or twice, not 20-30 times! My son is 5 and if he acts out, it takes no less than the threat of me spanking him to get him in line, rarely have to pop him and even then no more than once. AP lost control of the situation. He now has to pay the consequences of that decision.
Posted on 9/15/14 at 6:32 pm to NawlinsTiger9
And what about the other 4 kids that act the same way, but have "mild"-mannered parents.
Spanking isn't for everyone, nor is it 100% proven to work. In seeing myself raised and people I know raised, a light spank on the behind can do the trick.
Humans are animals and work in similar fashion when it comes to learning.
When a dog pees somewhere they're not supposed to you spank it, spray him/her with a bottle of water, and/or yell. Most of the time it works. You call it training. Humans work the same way, even though kids can reason, they're kids. They're going to be bad and reckless, but kids learn cause and effect
Now Peterson's report of hitting his kid in the head is total abuse. That's why people say if you're gonna spank a kid, hit his/her behind. Never the head.
Spanking isn't for everyone, nor is it 100% proven to work. In seeing myself raised and people I know raised, a light spank on the behind can do the trick.
Humans are animals and work in similar fashion when it comes to learning.
When a dog pees somewhere they're not supposed to you spank it, spray him/her with a bottle of water, and/or yell. Most of the time it works. You call it training. Humans work the same way, even though kids can reason, they're kids. They're going to be bad and reckless, but kids learn cause and effect
Now Peterson's report of hitting his kid in the head is total abuse. That's why people say if you're gonna spank a kid, hit his/her behind. Never the head.
This post was edited on 9/15/14 at 6:33 pm
Posted on 9/15/14 at 6:43 pm to htran90
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I've seen my fair share of 4-5 year olds from my friends.
Ok...
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None of them spank the kids
Great.
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all of them are total brats (outside of one) that have no respect for authority/adults.
Sounds like they have shitty parents. I don't see how you can determine that not spanking these kids has led to their disrespectful behavior, nor can you determine that spanking them would have helped.
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One of the kids already got sent home from school in pre-k4 because the kid didn't want to follow instructions. What did the parent do? Bitch the teacher and not the kid.
Ahh, just like I thought, shitty parents.
I'm not sure why people feel that good parenting = corporal punishment, not do I have a clue why people assume that bad parenting = corporal punishment.
Posted on 9/15/14 at 6:45 pm to PrimeTime Money
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He inflicted severe pain.
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Why are people acting like Adrian Peterson was punching his son in the face
lulz
Posted on 9/15/14 at 7:17 pm to PrimeTime Money
About five years ago I had an epiphany about the role the need to control your environment has on most people. The best parents relinquish control wisely a bit at a time. Especially physical domination.
If you can't raise well-adjusted solid kids without beating them with inanimate objects, you are doing it wrong. Most kids, if raised properly, with respect and affection, will seek to please you and will learn from a well-placed word that serves as a dose of reality, or the loss of privileges . I would no more hit my kids then hit my wife. (I'm excluding those baby swats on the bum when they are little).
You will never convince me that this is how you get the results you are looking for- through violence, even if it is "controlled". Affection and respect never fail. My Dad respected me and I respect my kids. Kids get respect and feel like part of an invaluable family unit and they respond with respect. My kids (15,13,10) have never given me a single bad day. Not one. They know what I expect and they step up. They get their strength from within the family and know this is their safe place-not a place that creates anxiety. There is a better way to teach than by hitting. If that's the best you have as a parent, then I feel bad for where you stand as a human being.
If you can't raise well-adjusted solid kids without beating them with inanimate objects, you are doing it wrong. Most kids, if raised properly, with respect and affection, will seek to please you and will learn from a well-placed word that serves as a dose of reality, or the loss of privileges . I would no more hit my kids then hit my wife. (I'm excluding those baby swats on the bum when they are little).
You will never convince me that this is how you get the results you are looking for- through violence, even if it is "controlled". Affection and respect never fail. My Dad respected me and I respect my kids. Kids get respect and feel like part of an invaluable family unit and they respond with respect. My kids (15,13,10) have never given me a single bad day. Not one. They know what I expect and they step up. They get their strength from within the family and know this is their safe place-not a place that creates anxiety. There is a better way to teach than by hitting. If that's the best you have as a parent, then I feel bad for where you stand as a human being.
Posted on 9/15/14 at 7:20 pm to Lsupimp
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You will never convince me that this is how you get the results you are looking for- through violence, even if it is "controlled". Affection and respect never fail. My Dad respected me and I respect my kids. Kids get respect and feel like part of an invaluable family unit and they respond with respect. My kids (15,13,10) have never given me a single bad day. Not one. They know what I expect and they step up. They get their strength from within the family and know this is their safe place-not a place that creates anxiety. There is a better way to teach than by hitting. If that's the best you have as a parent, then I feel bad for where you stand as a human being.
Well put. I was spanked some as a kid, but nowhere ever in the same realm as the matter at hand. Did it help? Who knows? I was pretty shy and didn't get out of line too much the older I got.
But the bottom line in my family was always love and respect for one another. Loving and respecting my parents made me not want to disappoint them or do something that I know they didn't care for. I plan to treat my kids the same.
Posted on 9/15/14 at 7:26 pm to lsu2006
I'm not going to condemn someone who spanks a child, and I don't think that child is abused. I just think there is a MUCH BETTER WAY to get the results you are seeking. It's too lazy of an approach to me, not emotionally intelligent enough, too interlinked with anger, which is such a destructive emotion inside the family unit.
Posted on 9/15/14 at 7:29 pm to Lsupimp
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It's too lazy of an approach to me, not emotionally intelligent enough, too interlinked with anger, which is such a destructive emotion inside the family unit.
moar pussification of 'merica!
jk, you posted some very wise posts my friend. wish more people listened/read
Posted on 9/15/14 at 7:35 pm to PrimeTime Money
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I was simply talking about the very specific segment of this relating to the actual physical injuries. You can describe the abuse as severe, disturbing, or any other number of words. But the actual physical injuries itself are not severe injuries.
Let me put it this way to you. I have 4 kids. The youngest is 4 years old. If I came home and found injuries on my son like those of lil Adrian, I will come unglued. That person better hope the law gets him before I do.
The Injuries inflicted by Adrian on the poor kid are severe. If you can't understand that, may I suggest you grab the nearest dull knife you can find and sever you vans deferens. You clearly do not need to procreate.
Posted on 9/15/14 at 7:51 pm to htran90
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I've seen my fair share of 4-5 year olds from my friends. None of them spank the kids and all of them are total brats (outside of one) that have no respect for authority/adults. One of the kids already got sent home from school in pre-k4 because the kid didn't want to follow instructions. What did the parent do? Bitch the teacher and not the kid. Parenting/Children's behavior go hand-in-hand. But I guess you're fine with your kid being a brat throughout their lives.
I have a four year old nephew. He's never been struck once in his life by his parents, grandparents, myself, or anyone else. And he is the most well behaved child anyone could ever hope for.
Parenting and children's behavior do go hand-in-hand. And those kids you've encountered may be brats. But it has nothing to do with them being spanked or not.
Posted on 9/15/14 at 7:56 pm to htran90
Do you not know there is an area between not disciplining a child and beating them?
Come on. You can punish a kid and not make him bleed
Come on. You can punish a kid and not make him bleed
Posted on 9/15/14 at 7:56 pm to Wayne Campbell
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Parenting and children's behavior do go hand-in-hand. And those kids you've encountered may be brats. But it has nothing to do with them being spanked or not.
Sometimes a parent can simply put on the angry face and raising their voice to put their children in their place in knowing what they did was wrong.
Now what happens when the kid doesn't listen the first, second, third, fourth, and fifth time. Say the tiny "smack" on the arse does the trick, is that so wrong? I'm not defending peterson, because he was OVERLY excessive, but some of these people who think spanking is NEVER needed haven't seen enough kids that were raised by idiots, and saying raised is a stretch.
Or what about the kids that run like idiots and their parents don't say or discipline them at all. They become a menace and carry on that attitude as they grow up (in some of the cases you see all the time with a lack of parenting).
You get the in between and the far end spectrum of idiot parents who either abuse their kids or let their kids run wild.
The in-between raise their kids well with whatever method they deem right.
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