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re: Who's a better overall player?
Posted on 6/14/17 at 9:33 am to Spelt it rong
Posted on 6/14/17 at 9:33 am to Spelt it rong
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They're both great scorers, average defenders at best (Kyrie nod), pretty good facilitators (Curry nod) and pretty good rebounders.
Alot wrong here.
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They're both great scorers
True, but Curry is more efficient.
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average defenders at best (Kyrie nod)
Curry is a much better defender than Kyrie. Regardless of how many times announcers bring up when teams try to switch on him.
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pretty good facilitators (Curry nod)
Kyrie is an awful facilitator.
This post was edited on 6/14/17 at 9:34 am
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Posted on 6/14/17 at 9:34 am to cubsfan5150
Kyrie, but he sure as hell disappeared in the 4th on Monday.
Posted on 6/14/17 at 9:35 am to arwicklu
No that's not why at all. Its Bc his defensive impact is overrated. A top offensive players team will never ever be worse when he is off the floor than on it. Ever. But a supposed top defensive players team can be as we saw this year. It shows how much more valuable elite offense is than elite defense. And why Leonard is overrated as whole Bc of the 'two way player' label.
Posted on 6/14/17 at 9:37 am to cubsfan5150
Curry
Kyrie is a completely different point guard though
Kyrie is a completely different point guard though
Posted on 6/14/17 at 9:38 am to cubsfan5150
Curry.
You can call him a one trick pony but when your trick has that pervasive of a positive effect on your team, then that has to be taken into account as well.
You can call him a one trick pony but when your trick has that pervasive of a positive effect on your team, then that has to be taken into account as well.
Posted on 6/14/17 at 9:39 am to cubsfan5150
Curry better ft, deep, passing
You can make cases for kyrie defending most places on court and vs bigger guys.
Kyrie brilliant at the rim. Curry no slouch.
I pick curry for my team.
You can make cases for kyrie defending most places on court and vs bigger guys.
Kyrie brilliant at the rim. Curry no slouch.
I pick curry for my team.
Posted on 6/14/17 at 9:39 am to Starchild
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Kyrie's ability to finish at the rim are better than anyone though
the one blatant advantage he has over curry
Posted on 6/14/17 at 9:43 am to Boomshockalocka
quote:Why on earth would you have James over Kawhi?
Lebron
KD
Curry
James
Kawhi
Westbrook
Davis
And if I'm starting a team, I'm taking James over Curry without a second thought. Harden's game would fit magically into pretty much any scenario.
This post was edited on 6/14/17 at 9:45 am
Posted on 6/14/17 at 9:50 am to cubsfan5150
Curry and it isn't even remotely close
Posted on 6/14/17 at 9:55 am to ReauxlTide222
Ball handling - kyrie but steph is no slouch here. though I find curry to be much more lackadaisical in certain spots, leading to careless turnovers
defender - curry
shooter - curry
aggressor - draw?
rebounder - curry
finisher at the rim - kyrie is the best in the league here, no doubt...but again, curry is no slouch
facilitator - curry by far
in these finals alone, curry nearly avg'd a triple double while finishing ahead of tristan thompson in rebounding I believe.
defender - curry
shooter - curry
aggressor - draw?
rebounder - curry
finisher at the rim - kyrie is the best in the league here, no doubt...but again, curry is no slouch
facilitator - curry by far
in these finals alone, curry nearly avg'd a triple double while finishing ahead of tristan thompson in rebounding I believe.
Posted on 6/14/17 at 9:59 am to The Egg
quote:How the shite do we know how good Curry is at facilitating and running a team?
facilitator - curry by far
For Christ's sake your grandmother could get 6 assists per night as a PG on that team.
Posted on 6/14/17 at 10:00 am to cubsfan5150
Curry. Not even a debate unless you're only talking about finishing ability around the rim.
Posted on 6/14/17 at 10:04 am to TbirdSpur2010
Yeah the only advantage Kyrie has over Steph is finishing around the rim, but Steph is also very good at that. The comparison really isn't close and it won't be until Kyrie rounds his game out.
Posted on 6/14/17 at 10:05 am to cubsfan5150
Kyrie does some things better than curry, and if they were playing one on one, could very well beat him.
However, kyrie is a score first (and second, third, etc) point guard, whereas steph is much better at getting his teammates involved. Kyrie is a 6'2 Kobe Bryant.
Steph is clearly the better overall player. To be honest, I think kyrie is a bad fit with Lebron.
However, kyrie is a score first (and second, third, etc) point guard, whereas steph is much better at getting his teammates involved. Kyrie is a 6'2 Kobe Bryant.
Steph is clearly the better overall player. To be honest, I think kyrie is a bad fit with Lebron.
Posted on 6/14/17 at 10:06 am to kadillak
quote:Or gets to play with GS.
The comparison really isn't close and it won't be until Kyrie rounds his game out.
Kyrie is a 29 point 9 assist guy with GS. Maybe even better. He'd fricking shred defenses.
Posted on 6/14/17 at 10:10 am to ReauxlTide222
or he might still be an iso player who's so good at finishing that it isn't so instinctive to him to drive and kick/facilitate.
as an iso 1v1 player, I'm not sure there's a better guy in the league.
as an iso 1v1 player, I'm not sure there's a better guy in the league.
This post was edited on 6/14/17 at 10:11 am
Posted on 6/14/17 at 10:13 am to ReauxlTide222
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Or gets to play with GS.
Kyrie is a 29 point 9 assist guy with GS. Maybe even better. He'd fricking shred defenses.
Uh, no. Kyrie is quite literally the opposite fit of what makes GS good. Their offense wouldn't be nearly what it is if you made that trade.
Curry's counting numbers would be even more ridiculous if he had anywhere near the ISO opportunities Kyrie gets. 
Posted on 6/14/17 at 10:13 am to ReauxlTide222
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Or gets to play with GS.
Kyrie is a 29 point 9 assist guy with GS. Maybe even better. He'd fricking shred defenses.
Nah, GS doesn't emphasize what Kyrie does well. I have a hard time believing they'd clear out and let him iso consistently like he gets to in Cleveland
Posted on 6/14/17 at 10:33 am to The Egg
quote:Do you not watch him? His drive and kick game is amazing.
that it isn't so instinctive to him to drive and kick/facilitate.
It's just not what he does for Cle. But his instincts are AMAZING.
Posted on 6/14/17 at 10:40 am to cubsfan5150
quote:This year, in a down year for Curry, he lead Kyrie in:
Care to show how he's statistically better?
PER
TS%
TRB%
AST%
STL%
WS/48
BPM
VORP
Care to show how Kyrie is statistically better?
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