re: Who wins between these split national champions?

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LSU was the coaches champion. USC was the media champion. And they both have trophies.

It would have a been a game for the ages, though.

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The 6 BCS conferences and Notre Dame agreed that the BCS system would decide THE national champion. You can't go back after the fact and say "look we're at the top of a poll, we're the champs!"

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this isn't even considered a split NC.

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LSU Fan

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Whatever you say.

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So what makes your opinion so pure

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It isn't an opinion, it is a fact that LSU and USC split the National Title.

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motorbreath

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There's no going back - after the fact.

In fact, now there's been more of a revisionist history about it not being a split - at the time it was very clear - it was a split and every media outlet talked about it as such.

A refresher course in how this works...

The BCS is just system to match up the top two teams for a made for TV "title game" - it doesn't award anything by and of itself.

Awarding agencies:

Coaches poll were contractually obligated to award the BCS champ their poll - so it's the Coaches Poll title.

AP is not contractually obligated but they are free to award it to the BCS champ or another team.

Every "BCS" Champion (which is no longer going to be in a year) has been awarded and claimed both the AP Poll and the Coaches Poll - title...(including LSU in 2007)

Except LSU in 2003...they were not awarded the AP title while every other BCS champ was - USC was awarded the AP title.

AP/Coaches titles mark the sands of time for CFB as to whose who of national title holders.

How you still hold onto - not a split - is quite illogical.

To be perfectly honest if it wasn't for the BCS there most likely wouldn't have even been a "split" both polls had USC #1

Uh oh.

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To be perfectly honest if it wasn't for the BCS there wouldn't have even been a split both polls had USC #1

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Which makes the point even stronger.

The Coaches poll couldn't even vote their conscience. They had to completely flip-flop and rubber stamp the winner of the BCS game because they were contractually obligated. In essence...the computers completely decided that BCS title...because the human vote was taken out of it at the end.

Which is why you had headlines at the time...

"Computer Champ vs. People's Champ" - it wasn't fair to LSU at all...they did nothing wrong...but it people felt it bizarre that both human polls were being ignored by this system.

So when everyone says...we agreed upon it...well no, the AP didn't agree. The Coaches Poll agreed to rubber-stamp and "validate" the BCS by giving their title to the system...the AP did not.

Fine. But I read national magazines like Sports Illustrated, Sporting News, etc. A lot had USC on the cover as #1...I'm sure people other places felt strongly about LSU.

...and I don't want to get into nonsense about who was better or who deserved it.

The fact is LSU won the Coaches Poll and USC won the AP Poll - that's a split title.

"The AFCA National Championship Trophy (Coaches' Trophy) is the trophy awarded by the American Football Coaches Association (AFCA) to the winner of college football's BCS National Championship Game, which determines the national champion for purposes of the Coaches' Poll".



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As it stands they got completely dominated by KSU

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They knew that no matter how they played they would be in N.O. anyway.............

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and had no business being in the BCS Championship (Sugar Bowl) against LSU.

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Now I will agree with this..............

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Also, USC was, as Miles is wont to say, "undefeated in regulation".

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But didn't play a team as Uk or ARK in 2003..

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went to LSU but honestly I think USC would have beaten LSU in 03, unless it was played in Tiger Stadium or the Superdome.

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Well, it would have been in the dome, so there's a vote for LSU.