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re: Where does Marcus Mariota rank in the pantheon of college dual-threat QBs?

Posted on 3/16/15 at 7:55 am to
Posted by 632627
LA
Member since Dec 2011
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Posted on 3/16/15 at 7:55 am to
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Posted by fightin tigers
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Take Frazier off, he wasn't a dual threat qb, he was an option qb.


What does this mean? Spread QB vs Option QB is nominal. Spread just gives a bunch of throwing targets for earning yards. Easier to throw in the spread and run as a QB in the spread.

Proof is Tebow dominating unless he played in a situation where he had to be a real QB.



I'm assuming you never seen Frazier play, or possibly never saw Nebraska at all under Osborne or solich. There is a huge difference between the option qb at Nebraska and the zone read qb's. Passing was an afterthought at Nebraska, I doubt Frazier averaged more than 12 attempts per game.

Edit- frazier's career completion % is 49% and in his best season he completed 8 passes per game.
This post was edited on 3/16/15 at 8:03 am
Posted by StraightCashHomey21
Aberdeen,NC
Member since Jul 2009
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Posted on 3/16/15 at 8:09 am to
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I wouldn't call White dual threat QBs. I would call them option QBs


WVU never ran the option
Posted by StraightCashHomey21
Aberdeen,NC
Member since Jul 2009
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Posted on 3/16/15 at 8:10 am to
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Pat White wasn't that great either. The Big East was a train wreck when he played at West Virginia.


Four for four in bowls

2 bcs wins

And the big east wasn't crappy back then 2007 the league was really good
This post was edited on 3/16/15 at 8:29 am
Posted by Goldrush25
San Diego, CA
Member since Oct 2012
33794 posts
Posted on 3/16/15 at 8:44 am to
Above RGIII, Cam, Pat White, below everyone else.
Posted by ShaneTheLegLechler
Member since Dec 2011
60148 posts
Posted on 3/16/15 at 8:56 am to
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Also I know JFF won a Heisman but idk about him being an all time great. Frazier or Vick or Cam or VY never got blown out 41-7 or never not won 10 games. JFF was a product of a system that showed it was meant to remain in college. LSU gave us a glimpse of what the rest of the NFL is doing.


When did Manziel lose 41-7? Also only three guys in the list in the OP accomplished anything in the NFL so I'm not sure how that can be considered criteria. Frazier was the ultimate system QB.
Posted by Sigma
Fairhope, AL
Member since Dec 2005
3643 posts
Posted on 3/16/15 at 9:14 am to
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Above Cam


Umm....
Posted by WalkingTurtles
Alexandria
Member since Jan 2013
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Posted on 3/16/15 at 7:05 pm to
Frazier had blood clots before he could go pro. Frazier transcened the system, he could run and pass, he QBed the greatest team of all time, 95' Nebraska.

Oh and I'm sorry it wasn't 41-7 it was 34-10. Still a 3TD+ beatdown.
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