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re: Where does Marcus Mariota rank in the pantheon of college dual-threat QBs?
Posted on 3/15/15 at 2:09 pm to NOTORlOUSD
Posted on 3/15/15 at 2:09 pm to NOTORlOUSD
quote:Nick Marshall was a lot better than people give him credit for.
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Posted on 3/15/15 at 2:11 pm to VerlanderBEAST
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I would call them option QBs
So designed run plays are different because....
Yards in a spread offense are way easier than option.
This post was edited on 3/15/15 at 2:12 pm
Posted on 3/15/15 at 2:14 pm to TTsTowel
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Nick Marshall was a lot better than people give him credit for.
To paraphrase Bill Walsh, players like Nick Marshall were products of the system. Mike Vick was the system.
Posted on 3/15/15 at 2:16 pm to Tornado Alley
In CFB, I still have JFF, Cam Newton, and Tebow at the top. They played better competition.
#SECSECSECSEC
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Posted on 3/15/15 at 2:19 pm to Bench McElroy
quote:I would tend to think you would show him a little more respect after he torched Alabama's defense in consecutive years.
To paraphrase Bill Walsh, players like Nick Marshall were products of the system. Mike Vick was the system.
Regardless of any system, Nick Marshall was very fricking good in college.
Posted on 3/15/15 at 2:33 pm to Bench McElroy
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To paraphrase Bill Walsh, players like Nick Marshall were products of the system. Mike Vick was the system.
But you still have Pat White on your list who didn't have as good numbers as Marshall and never took his team to a NCG
Posted on 3/15/15 at 2:47 pm to BowlJackson
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But you still have Pat White on your list who didn't have as good numbers as Marshall and never took his team to a NCG
Pat White wasn't that great either. The Big East was a train wreck when he played at West Virginia.
Posted on 3/15/15 at 3:39 pm to Bench McElroy
Take Frazier off, he wasn't a dual threat qb, he was an option qb.
Pat white fits the list, but Mariota was better than him. I'm inclined to say the other guys listed are better than Mariota except tebow. Mariota is a much better passing qb than tebow, and is/was faster as well. Tebow was just surrounded by ridiculous talent, probably more so than any other guy listed.
Pat white fits the list, but Mariota was better than him. I'm inclined to say the other guys listed are better than Mariota except tebow. Mariota is a much better passing qb than tebow, and is/was faster as well. Tebow was just surrounded by ridiculous talent, probably more so than any other guy listed.
Posted on 3/15/15 at 3:44 pm to Bench McElroy
Being a transcendent talent and having a great system aren't mutually exclusive. Mariota is 10x the qb as any other qb Oregon has in the spread era. We had games with a true frosh and a walk on at tackle. He transcended a dumpster fire of an OL and 3 frosh starters at the skill spots. I don't believe people can appreciate what he did.
Posted on 3/15/15 at 3:46 pm to VerlanderBEAST
Kordell Stewart
This post was edited on 3/15/15 at 4:16 pm
Posted on 3/15/15 at 3:49 pm to fightin tigers
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McNair at Alcorn went off. He was before his time. Florida really fricked up not letting him play QB.
Didn't know that. Thanks
Posted on 3/15/15 at 4:03 pm to 632627
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Take Frazier off, he wasn't a dual threat qb, he was an option qb.
What does this mean? Spread QB vs Option QB is nominal. Spread just gives a bunch of throwing targets for earning yards. Easier to throw in the spread and run as a QB in the spread.
Proof is Tebow dominating unless he played in a situation where he had to be a real QB.
Posted on 3/15/15 at 4:09 pm to VerlanderBEAST
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I wouldn't call Frazier and White dual threat QBs. I would call them option QBs
Frazier for sure. Pretty much every QB under Osborne was an option QB. Not really a dual threat. They were pretty much tailbacks with decent arms.
Posted on 3/15/15 at 4:14 pm to Kracka
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Not really a dual threat. They were pretty much tailbacks with decent arms.
Vick is the only one on that list that has done anything other than support your description.
Posted on 3/15/15 at 4:17 pm to fightin tigers
Kordell stewart was solid, and had some decent years in pro's
Posted on 3/15/15 at 4:23 pm to Tornado Alley
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Am I missing anyone else?
Posted on 3/15/15 at 4:41 pm to D011ahbi11
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Shaun King
THIS!!!!
Also I know JFF won a Heisman but idk about him being an all time great. Frazier or Vick or Cam or VY never got blown out 41-7 or never not won 10 games. JFF was a product of a system that showed it was meant to remain in college. LSU gave us a glimpse of what the rest of the NFL is doing.
Posted on 3/15/15 at 4:54 pm to Tornado Alley
Charlie Ward - IMO he was the beginning of the modern day dual threat.
Posted on 3/15/15 at 5:10 pm to coolneal
I may be a homer but brad smith is up there. First QB to throw for 8,000 and run for 4,000. Holds numerous school, big 12 and ncaa records. He also did it with less talent than just about anyone on your list.
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