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Posted on 2/8/16 at 8:12 pm to mizzoubuckeyeiowa
Posted on 2/8/16 at 8:25 pm to Upperdecker
Too many people in this thread are forgetting the 2002 Bucs.
Held opposing QBs to a 48.4 passer rating. First D since the 85 Bears to lead the league in total defense, points allowed, and interceptions.
Derrick Brooks
John Lynch
Warren Sapp
Ronde Barber
Simeon Rice
Booger McFarland
Dexter Jackson
02 Bucs and 00 Ravens are the best this century.
Held opposing QBs to a 48.4 passer rating. First D since the 85 Bears to lead the league in total defense, points allowed, and interceptions.
Derrick Brooks
John Lynch
Warren Sapp
Ronde Barber
Simeon Rice
Booger McFarland
Dexter Jackson
02 Bucs and 00 Ravens are the best this century.
Posted on 2/8/16 at 8:42 pm to PortCityTiger24
3rd at best!
1985 Bears #1
1985 Bears #1
Posted on 2/8/16 at 8:46 pm to BowlJackson
I don't think anyone is selling them short, just giving credit where credit is due. The first group being starters, the second role players.
Von Miller
Demarcus Ware
Aqib Talib
Chris Harris Jr
TJ Ward
Derek Wolfe
Malik Jackson
Sylvester Williams
Brandon Marshall
Danny Trevathan
Darian Stewart
Bradley Roby
Shaq Barrett
Shane Ray
David Bruton
Von Miller
Demarcus Ware
Aqib Talib
Chris Harris Jr
TJ Ward
Derek Wolfe
Malik Jackson
Sylvester Williams
Brandon Marshall
Danny Trevathan
Darian Stewart
Bradley Roby
Shaq Barrett
Shane Ray
David Bruton
Posted on 2/8/16 at 8:54 pm to TTsTowel
Posted on 2/8/16 at 11:39 pm to mizzoubuckeyeiowa
Idk. 2000 ravens was nasty. Seattle completely destroyed a very potent Denver offense a couple yrs ago.
Maybe 4-5
Maybe 4-5
This post was edited on 2/8/16 at 11:40 pm
Posted on 2/9/16 at 1:09 am to BowlJackson
quote:
Too many people in this thread are forgetting the 2002 Bucs.
because its been almost 15 years since we saw them and they had the misfortune of coming 2 seasons after the team that many of us consider to be the best.
Posted on 2/9/16 at 1:20 am to DownSouthCrawfish
In modern era (last 15 years)...it's fair to say...
1. Ravens (as they are the only defense that didn't play in the 1960's/1970's to be ranked in the top 10 of stingiest - they are ranked even higher than the '85 Bears)
2. Seahawks (did it better than anyone after the 2004 rule changes)
3. Broncos (same)
4. Bucs
5. Titans
1977 alone has 3 of the best defenses in history based on stats.
13 of the top 14 stingiest defenses played between 1968 and 1977.
The 1978 rule changes opened things up as did the Manning rule changes in 2004 for illegal contact - after his receivers got mugged by the Pats in the AFC champ game and lost and Polian on the rules committee lobbied to change the rules to help his QB).
So crowning the Bucs and Ravens is difficult because the rules changed again in 2004.
I think the Ravens are still tops over the Seahawks even though they had it easier...because they are top 10 in any era.
But you can't even compare the 1970's football to today...let alone 2000 to today.
Weighing which D's had it the most difficult.
Denver is top 5 but Seattle is tops since 2004.
1. Ravens (as they are the only defense that didn't play in the 1960's/1970's to be ranked in the top 10 of stingiest - they are ranked even higher than the '85 Bears)
2. Seahawks (did it better than anyone after the 2004 rule changes)
3. Broncos (same)
4. Bucs
5. Titans
1977 alone has 3 of the best defenses in history based on stats.
13 of the top 14 stingiest defenses played between 1968 and 1977.
The 1978 rule changes opened things up as did the Manning rule changes in 2004 for illegal contact - after his receivers got mugged by the Pats in the AFC champ game and lost and Polian on the rules committee lobbied to change the rules to help his QB).
So crowning the Bucs and Ravens is difficult because the rules changed again in 2004.
I think the Ravens are still tops over the Seahawks even though they had it easier...because they are top 10 in any era.
But you can't even compare the 1970's football to today...let alone 2000 to today.
Weighing which D's had it the most difficult.
Denver is top 5 but Seattle is tops since 2004.
This post was edited on 2/9/16 at 1:27 am
Posted on 2/9/16 at 3:29 am to Tiger n Miami AU83
08 Steelers>15 Broncos>13 Seahawks
Posted on 2/9/16 at 7:22 am to mizzoubuckeyeiowa
Really good but not on 2013 Seattle level.
Posted on 2/9/16 at 8:42 am to Thib-a-doe Tiger
quote:
Somewhere behind 2000 Ravens, along with every other defense
This. Probably top 10. The Steelers and Cowboys had some great Defenses back in the 70's.
Posted on 2/9/16 at 10:47 am to Thib-a-doe Tiger
quote:
Somewhere behind 1985 Bears, along with every other defense
Posted on 2/9/16 at 1:18 pm to mizzoubuckeyeiowa
The 2000 Ravens were probably the best rush defense in NFL history.
That was a great era for running backs, and Baltimore allowed fewer than 1,000 yards all year (and 5 TDs), more than 400 yards fewer than the next best, and roughly half league average. Four teams in their division finished in the top 10 in rushing offense - they played each of those teams twice and held them to an average of 44 yards rushing. The Bengals were the #2 rushing offense in the league and they held them to under 50 yards combined in two games. They played the #1 rushing offense in the league (Oakland) in the AFCCG and held them to 24 yards.
That was a great era for running backs, and Baltimore allowed fewer than 1,000 yards all year (and 5 TDs), more than 400 yards fewer than the next best, and roughly half league average. Four teams in their division finished in the top 10 in rushing offense - they played each of those teams twice and held them to an average of 44 yards rushing. The Bengals were the #2 rushing offense in the league and they held them to under 50 yards combined in two games. They played the #1 rushing offense in the league (Oakland) in the AFCCG and held them to 24 yards.
Posted on 2/9/16 at 2:09 pm to Speedy G
They went 5 or 6 games without scoring a single offensive td and still went 12-4 in the regular season.
Posted on 2/9/16 at 2:14 pm to mizzoubuckeyeiowa
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