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re: Where Do the 2014 Spurs Rank Among Top Teams In Past 15 Years?

Posted on 6/21/14 at 1:28 am to
Posted by TbirdSpur2010
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Posted on 6/21/14 at 1:28 am to
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this spur team may have more depth, but that laker team is deep enough to play with a prime shaq and kobe who was putting up something like 29 pts a game that year. im feeling pretty good about the 2001 laker team playing this year spurs team. shaq would be too much just like he would be for everyone else


Pop would draw Shaq out of the paint like he did to Ibaka. And shaq for all his dominance wouldn't be mobile enough to recover quickly to always protect the rim. Also keep in mind that the Tim Duncan the lakers beat in 2000 and 01 isn't the same Tim from 14. Much more range to put stress on the lakers defense.

Remember how much of a challenge the Kings presented for LA? The Spurs are a smarter, deeper version of that.

It'd be a helluva series. Of course you'll side with your lakers and me with my Spurs, but I don't think you can say either wins definitively.
Posted by WestCoastAg
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Posted on 6/21/14 at 1:32 am to
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Pop would draw Shaq out of the paint like he did to Ibaka
a lot of people tried to do this to shaq, he just wouldn't leave the paint

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Much more range to put stress on the lakers defense.
now this is true

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Remember how much of a challenge the Kings presented for LA?
a lot of that came from that 2002 team being ALL shaq and kobe and that king team ran the Princeton offense like heroes. that king team was very good. hell I think they should be up here on these lists.

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but I don't think you can say either wins definitively.
nuh uh. LAKERS SWEEP!!11!1!
This post was edited on 6/21/14 at 1:34 am
Posted by TbirdSpur2010
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Posted on 6/21/14 at 1:36 am to
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a lot of people tried to do this to shaq, he just wouldn't leave the paint


Red Mamba/Boris Diaw party, then

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now this is true


I know. This is one of the reasons Im hesitant to compare teams across eras longer than a few years. Players can become infinitely more dangerous with experience.



Posted by TbirdSpur2010
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Posted on 6/21/14 at 1:38 am to
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a lot of that came from that 2002 team being ALL shaq and kobe and that king team ran the Princeton offense like heroes.


True. And that's also kind of a shitty comparison on my part I guess because SA doesn't really run a Princeton offense.

I agree that those kings should get more love. It's like I was saying with the 07 mavs. Folks forget how scary some teams were that DIDN'T ring for whatever reason.

Oh, and Spurs in 6, motherfricker
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Posted on 6/21/14 at 1:39 am to
and all of this is coming from the viewpoint that the 2001 laker team would be playing like they did in the playoffs and not like they did at points in the season when kobe bogged down the offense. that team had an entire playoff run that matched what this spurs team did in the final three games of the finals. it was amazing
Posted by WestCoastAg
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Posted on 6/21/14 at 1:40 am to
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It's like I was saying with the 07 mavs. Folks forget how scary some teams were that DIDN'T ring for whatever reason.
speaking of 2001, I really liked that spurs team. I was recently re watching that CF and was thinking damn, I like this team
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Oh, and Spurs in 6, motherfricker
the sonic on the corner of texas and university. meet me there
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Posted by TbirdSpur2010
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Posted on 6/21/14 at 1:41 am to
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the 2001 laker team would be playing like they did in the playoffs and not like they did at points in the season when kobe bogged down the offense. that team had an entire playoff run that matched what this spurs team did in the final three games of the finals. it was amazing


Watched all of that run and yes it was incredible.

The lakers were dominant. The Spurs were execution assassins.
Posted by BayouBengals03
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Posted on 6/21/14 at 1:42 am to
2001 Lakers
2014 Spurs
2008 Celtics

I think those are the top 3. I'm gonna exclude the 2000 and 2002 Lakers just because of redundancy.
Posted by TbirdSpur2010
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Posted on 6/21/14 at 1:43 am to
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speaking of 2001, I really liked the spurs team


That team wasn't ready.

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the sonic on the corner of texas and university. meet me there



I have some dry cleaning to pick up, so we might have to switch it to the Mi Cocina on George Bush.

Posted by WestCoastAg
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Posted on 6/21/14 at 1:44 am to
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That team wasn't ready.
they just weren't ready to beat kobe/shaq. if it wasn't for those two the spurs dominate the NBA in the first half of the 2000s. not the other way around
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Mi Cocina on George Bush.
George bush is too far damnit
Posted by TbirdSpur2010
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Posted on 6/21/14 at 1:50 am to
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they just weren't ready to beat kobe/shaq. if it wasn't for those two the spurs dominate the NBA in the first half of the 2000s. not the other way around


Very possible, although I don't know if we don't succumb to Sacramento too. Then again they just seemed to ball out of their minds against y'all because of the rivalry.

Those portland teams in 1999 and 2000 were ridiculous too.

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George bush is too far damnit



Goddammit, Applebee's parking lot then, like common peasants

Posted by WestCoastAg
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Posted on 6/21/14 at 1:55 am to
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although I don't know if we don't succumb to Sacramento too
that Portland team was very good in 1999 and 2000. more teams that are forgotten because they didn't win. the only time i thought sacramento could beat us was in 2002. so that leaves 2001 to go along with 2003. yea i don't know. the west was amazing like always

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Applebee's parking lot then, like common peasants
we can do that, but that's right across the street from sonic. so i say we keep it according to TD bylaws and have it at sonic
Posted by VerlanderBEAST
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Posted on 6/21/14 at 1:57 am to
9th behind the

99 Spurs
00 Lakers
01 Lakers
04 Pistons
05 Spurs
08 Celtics
09 Lakers
11 Mavs
Posted by TbirdSpur2010
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Posted on 6/21/14 at 2:03 am to
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that Portland team was very good in 1999 and 2000. more teams that are forgotten because they didn't win.


Yeah only the hoops junkies remember I guess lol. That 99 portland team legitimately scared me. They'd just beaten a motivated jazz team that was pushing for that first post-jordan title. No way SA should have swept them. I still don't know how Sean Elliott made that shot.

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the only time i thought sacramento could beat us was in 2002. so that leaves 2001 to go along with 2003. yea i don't know. the west was amazing like always



Ridiculous conference. And really the 03 spurs team beat y'all because of factors y'all weren't ready for. Parker came on quickly, Stephen Jackson became a somebody that year, and that was Ginobili's rookie campaign.

I distinctly remember a commentator during that series saying Manu couldn't be counted on to score double digits consistently in the postseason

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we can do that, but that's right across the street from sonic. so i say we keep it according to TD bylaws and have it at sonic




Posted by WestCoastAg
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Posted on 6/21/14 at 2:12 am to
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I still don't know how Sean Elliott made that shot.

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And really the 03 spurs team beat y'all because of factors y'all weren't ready for. Parker came on quickly, Stephen Jackson became a somebody that year, and that was Ginobili's rookie campaign.
dead on. to go along with that 2003 laker team had cracks that comes from three straight titles. still have no clue how they won in 2002. like i really don't. that team, as far as championship teams can be, was rather weak. the kobe/shaq duo was just godly
honestly don't remember much from 2003 outside of the spurs series. it was the spurs time to finally get over the hump. you could see it coming to just how the lakers played the twolves in the first round

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distinctly remember a commentator during that series saying Manu couldn't be counted on to score double digits consistently in the postseason
if only you could bump spoken words
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Posted by TbirdSpur2010
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Posted on 6/21/14 at 2:20 am to
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No joke. Every time I see a replay, I think Elie's inbounds pass is getting stolen, and then I just KNOW Rasheed is about to block it. The man never saw the basket, I'm convinced

Very true.

And the irony of our 03 and 04 series always strikes me. Robert Horry MISSES a game winner in game 5, then the next year Fisher HITS with .4 on the clock? How do either of those happen?

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2002. like i really don't. that team, as far as championship teams can be, was rather weak. the kobe/shaq duo was just godly


fricking nasty team. Disgusting how good they were.

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if only you could bump spoken words


If only

I was living in Greece and it was said on SportsCenter after one of the Spurs wins that series.

I actually remember thinking that the guy was right in saying that, but I liked the way that Argentinian guy played anyways.

Posted by theducks
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Posted on 6/21/14 at 2:22 am to
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that Portland team was very good in 1999 and 2000.


The Lakers killed the Trail Blazers with Game 7 in '00. I ad the same dentist as Sabonis as a kid I've only seen highlights from those teams since I was too young to remember anything, but I'm sure glad I don't remember the heartbreak. Brandon Roy's and Oden's knees are plenty enough for me. Talk about robbery.
Posted by TbirdSpur2010
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Posted on 6/21/14 at 2:23 am to
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honestly don't remember much from 2003 outside of the spurs series. it was the spurs time to finally get over the hump.


That Spurs team was never meant to win a title. At all. Filled with aging or young pieces that just happened to click. Duncan was playing at an MVP level but most Spurs fans were pining for Avery Johnson still and we're pissed that we'd signed old arse Steve Kerr. And Robinson was hurting.
Posted by TbirdSpur2010
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Posted on 6/21/14 at 2:24 am to
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I ad the same dentist as Sabonis as a kid


Arvydas

If only he'd come over sooner.
Posted by WestCoastAg
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Posted on 6/21/14 at 2:31 am to
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Robert Horry MISSES a game winner in game 5
blah. that bitch was in the fricking cylinder

then the next year Fisher HITS with .4 on the clock?
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How do either of those happen?
cause the basketball gods are twisted bastards

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I actually remember thinking that the guy was right in saying that, but I liked the way that Argentinian guy played anyways.
turned out alright
This post was edited on 6/21/14 at 2:32 am
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