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re: When will the C-USA come calling for ULL?

Posted on 6/9/14 at 1:11 pm to
Posted by LSUSoulja08
Member since Oct 2007
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Posted on 6/9/14 at 1:11 pm to
I find it really funny when tech fans try to talk to down to the directional schools

let's play who's the tallest midget of the bunch!!
Posted by Overbrook
Member since May 2013
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Posted on 6/9/14 at 1:20 pm to
For now C-USA offers a much superior bowl and TV deal over the sunbelt. Their contract comes up after 2016 I believe.
If that contract comes up light, which it may, that's when ULL needs to be ready and that's why I say get relationships with those C-USA west teams. La Tech did a good job with that when they were in the WAC.
Posted by Tiguar
Montana
Member since Mar 2012
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Posted on 6/9/14 at 1:22 pm to
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CUSA still offers more in terms of television money and national perception, even if it's based more off of history than current standings.

Right now, the TV money is a little greater, but after the contracts get re-worked it may not be worth the "price of admission". If ULL doesn't get an invite for 5 years, the climate 5 years from now could be very different from today. Signs are pointing to a weaker TV deal next contract negotiation for CUSA.

Also, play off money matters now almost more than TV deals to G5 schools.
This post was edited on 6/9/14 at 1:23 pm
Posted by ragincajun03
Member since Nov 2007
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Posted on 6/9/14 at 1:23 pm to
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TEch, USM, Rice, UTEP, and UTSA.



4 of those 5 would be worthwhile in trying to reach out and establish a relationship with.

I'll let you guess which would be the one to act like a horse's arse.
Posted by Kickadawgitfeelsgood
Lafayette LA
Member since Nov 2005
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Posted on 6/9/14 at 1:27 pm to
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Right now, the TV money is a little greater, but after the contracts get re-worked it may not be worth the "price of admission".


Which is why AAC will focus on one of the Georgia schools, with their large tv markets.
Posted by TigerintheNO
New Orleans
Member since Jan 2004
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Posted on 6/9/14 at 1:36 pm to
Aside from Tulane who else is leaving CUSA?
Posted by VermilionTiger
Member since Dec 2012
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Posted on 6/9/14 at 1:37 pm to
Is Houston leaving?

Apparently they already left
This post was edited on 6/9/14 at 1:39 pm
Posted by Overbrook
Member since May 2013
6087 posts
Posted on 6/9/14 at 1:39 pm to
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4 of those 5 would be worthwhile in trying to reach out and establish a relationship with.

I'll let you guess which would be the one to act like a horse's arse.

LOL
Isn't their problem with Monroe?
All I know is if the Wave were still in C-USA I'd be begging for an airport meeting.
Posted by Baers Foot
Louisiana Ragin' Cajuns
Member since Dec 2011
3542 posts
Posted on 6/9/14 at 1:39 pm to
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perception. Who would you rather play against App state or USM, Latech or USA?


I'll take USM and USA. You are severely underestimating South Al's athletic program as a whole.
Posted by barry
Location, Location, Location
Member since Aug 2006
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Posted on 6/9/14 at 1:44 pm to
Be careful about moving up conferences, ask TCU how thats going.
Posted by ragincajun03
Member since Nov 2007
21208 posts
Posted on 6/9/14 at 1:44 pm to
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All I know is if the Wave were still in C-USA I'd be begging for an airport meeting.



I believe we've actually had a pretty decent relationship with Tulane in recent years, so I agree with that.
Posted by Baers Foot
Louisiana Ragin' Cajuns
Member since Dec 2011
3542 posts
Posted on 6/9/14 at 1:48 pm to
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Be careful about moving up conferences, ask TCU how thats going.


TCU got ~$800k in conference tv revenue while a member of the MWC. They're due $11 million from the Big 12 this year.

I'm sure if I asked, they'd shove a few hundred dollars in my mouth and tell me to GTFO.
Posted by barry
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Posted on 6/9/14 at 1:56 pm to
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I'm sure if I asked, they'd shove a few hundred dollars in my mouth and tell me to GTFO.


So you want your schools goal athletically to be to make money, not win ranked as high as possible?
This post was edited on 6/9/14 at 1:57 pm
Posted by msutiger
Shreveport
Member since Jul 2008
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Posted on 6/9/14 at 1:57 pm to
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This post was edited on 4/10/23 at 1:46 pm
Posted by Overbrook
Member since May 2013
6087 posts
Posted on 6/9/14 at 1:58 pm to
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I believe we've actually had a pretty decent relationship with Tulane in recent years, so I agree with that.

In C-USA, the politics toward the end was basically Tulane and Rice and to a lesser extent Tulsa and UTEP, versus the rest of the league. USM would/should have been with us, but they were undergoing administrative transition and had some real (or unreal) financial issues so they went with the flock (but they've seen the light now). The future was toward the west. But, outvoted.
And honestly, forgetting which football team is better (and that ebbs and flows anyway) any reasonable look at the demographics of the Ragins and Lafayette makes them a prime choice as a small/mid market team.
But as I see it you guys still have your top 2 rivals in your league: USA and Ark State. Boss that league, develop relationships with the schools that matter for your future( my list above; plus you could add Houston, SMU and continue to work with Tulane too) and see the outlook in 3 years.
Posted by LooseCannon22282
Mobile
Member since May 2008
33740 posts
Posted on 6/9/14 at 2:05 pm to
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South Alabama won two games in a dog shite conference


incorrect.

quote:

Their basketball team was decent


okay, now you're just making shite up as you go along.

Posted by Baers Foot
Louisiana Ragin' Cajuns
Member since Dec 2011
3542 posts
Posted on 6/9/14 at 2:14 pm to
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South Alabama over Tech?

Your blind hatred for Louisiana Tech is showing.

South Alabama won two games in a dog shite conference. Their basketball team was decent, but it isn't even close to where Tech is right now.

I'm all down for a discussion until people start making ridiculous remarks such as this one.


Blind hatred? I don't see how you could interpret it as hate. Someone posed a hypothetical, and I gave my opinion. It's just one Cajun fan's opinion, don't get so defensive about it.

3-4 years ago? Maybe I would have said I'd take LaTech over USA.
Posted by msutiger
Shreveport
Member since Jul 2008
69605 posts
Posted on 6/9/14 at 2:15 pm to
Had my schedules wrong. A 6 win season does not put you on par with a program that was ranked in the top 25 and knocking on the door for a BCS bowl bid just two years ago. Yeah we had a down year, but Tech lost more players than any other team in the country going into this past season. Everyone knew it was going to be rough.


Basketball? You made it to the CIT in 2013 (not really impressive) and lost to a putrid Tulane team. Tech spent most of the season on the cusp of the top 25. Beat the #5 seed in the NCAA tournament, Oklahoma on the road in Norman. Tech was about five minutes from being in the NIT final four. How does your CIT season compare to that?
Posted by msutiger
Shreveport
Member since Jul 2008
69605 posts
Posted on 6/9/14 at 2:17 pm to
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3-4 years ago? Maybe I would have said I'd take LaTech over USA.


Dude please stop. Just stop. They didn't even have a fricking fbs football program 3 years ago. You're a tard
Posted by Baers Foot
Louisiana Ragin' Cajuns
Member since Dec 2011
3542 posts
Posted on 6/9/14 at 2:17 pm to
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So you want your schools goal athletically to be to make money, not win ranked as high as possible?


If I'm the president/chancellor of a university and someone walks into a room with a check with $800k and one with $11 million, I'm taking the 11 million (which will shoot up to around ~20 after the next 1-2 years). Pumping that into upgrading facilities and student athlete amenities in order to attract better athletes, and taking steps to win ranked as high as possible.

If you don't make that decision, please avoid making any further decisions in life.
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