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Whats wrong with Zach Greinke?

Posted on 4/26/16 at 10:05 pm
Posted by RyanL
New Orleans
Member since Apr 2016
35 posts
Posted on 4/26/16 at 10:05 pm
Era = 6.16

FIP = 4.22

He gave up 41 earned runs last year and has already given up 21 this year.

I know it's a small sample size but he doesn't look anything like he did the past 3 seasons, has he just packed it in now that he is on his last contract?
Posted by LSUlunatic
Member since Dec 2006
6833 posts
Posted on 4/26/16 at 10:07 pm to
1) Last year, he was in a contract year
2) He was pretty lucky last year (statistically speaking)
3) Arizona's park is tougher

That's all I got.

eta: In general, top pitchers seem to vary year-to-year much more so than top hitters.
This post was edited on 4/26/16 at 10:08 pm
Posted by BCMCubs
Colorado
Member since Nov 2011
22146 posts
Posted on 4/26/16 at 10:09 pm to
Signed a huge deal in the offseason.
Posted by Vicks Kennel Club
29-24 #BlewDat
Member since Dec 2010
31081 posts
Posted on 4/26/16 at 10:12 pm to
quote:

has he just packed it in now that he is on his last contract?

That definitely seems anti-Greinke. There is no doubt that he took the most money (he admitted that), especially when you consider the differences in taxation rates between AZ and CA.

High BABIP, high HR/FB rate, and his velocity seems to be down around a tick. I only have seen him sparingly in starts so far, but I would want to see more. I really thought that he would still be a stud this year (sub 3.00 ERA).

This post was edited on 4/26/16 at 10:13 pm
Posted by Paul Allen
Montauk, NY
Member since Nov 2007
75219 posts
Posted on 4/26/16 at 10:26 pm to
Look at Fister with the Astros. A few years back in Detroit he was a much better pitcher. He's throwing 87-88 versus 91-92 a couple years ago.
Posted by supatigah
CEO of the Keith Hernandez Fan Club
Member since Mar 2004
87442 posts
Posted on 4/26/16 at 10:30 pm to
He has struggled keeping the ball down
When he misses, he misses up in the zone and gets hammered
Posted by MrWiseGuy
Member since Dec 2009
27421 posts
Posted on 4/26/16 at 10:52 pm to
quote:

the Astros. A few years back in Detroit he was a much better pitcher. He's throwing 87-88 versus 91-92 a couple years ago.




Fister was garbage before he got to the Astros. When you don't strike anyone out, you're going to get hit
This post was edited on 4/26/16 at 10:53 pm
Posted by GynoSandberg
Member since Jan 2006
72028 posts
Posted on 4/26/16 at 11:19 pm to
2 great starts on the road, 2 bad at home, 1 meh at home.

He gave up like 2 ER in 41 IP @ in chase field during his tenure with LAD

Safe money is he adjusts. He had a few hiccups in KC and MIL figuring things out. I think he thinks too much sometimes
Posted by Boomshockalocka
Member since Feb 2004
59695 posts
Posted on 4/26/16 at 11:28 pm to
Went from one of the best catchers at framing pitches to one of the worse. Also the ballpark makes a big difference.

LINK. Scroll down to the joe peta section. Heard him mention all of this on a podcast before the season started.
This post was edited on 4/26/16 at 11:36 pm
Posted by List Eater
Htown
Member since Apr 2005
23577 posts
Posted on 4/26/16 at 11:31 pm to
quote:

He's throwing 87-88 versus 91-92 a couple years ago.

Meh, the 2015 AL Cy Young winner tops out at 88...
Posted by GynoSandberg
Member since Jan 2006
72028 posts
Posted on 4/26/16 at 11:36 pm to
greinke FB has averaged 91 since 2013 (including thus far this season )
Posted by UltimateHog
Oregon
Member since Dec 2011
65808 posts
Posted on 4/26/16 at 11:53 pm to
Shelby Miller 0-2 8.69 ERA 7.70 FIP



Not a good offseason through 1 month for the DBacks, plenty of time left though.
Posted by List Eater
Htown
Member since Apr 2005
23577 posts
Posted on 4/26/16 at 11:59 pm to
Erik Kratz is topping out at 85mph for the Astros right now.



Yes, that Erik Kratz
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