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re: what kills me about the josh hamilton situation

Posted on 8/9/09 at 12:07 am to
Posted by 1ranter1
Louisiana
Member since Dec 2008
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Posted on 8/9/09 at 12:07 am to
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You should read up on his story before you start running the mouth.




Not running my mouth. Nobody forced him to become a crackhead, he did that himself. People act like he was born with a fricking drug addiction and miraculously overcame his problem to become an all star. No he was born with talent most people dream of and almost threw it all away. I guess that is inspiring to you, but to me it isn't.
Posted by BayouBengals03
lsu14always
Member since Nov 2007
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Posted on 8/9/09 at 12:08 am to
It is a good story, but it is not that inspirational , at least not to me.
Posted by ValentiTiger
Prairieville
Member since Aug 2008
665 posts
Posted on 8/9/09 at 12:11 am to
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I guess that is inspiring to you, but to me it isn't.


I guess as a person who has made some wrong choices in life, i see his story as an inspiring one. I never got into drugs or anything like that, but I do see what drugs do to people even if it is their choice to go that route. Coming out of it and turning your life around is huge in my opinion. You take the "hard arse" approach and that's cool. One day something like this might happen close to you and you will think differently.
Posted by lsu xman
Member since Oct 2006
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Posted on 8/9/09 at 12:12 am to
a crackhead coming clean is suppose to be inspiring? especially with tens of millions on the line..
Posted by BayouBengals03
lsu14always
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Posted on 8/9/09 at 12:13 am to
nope
Posted by TigerintheNO
New Orleans
Member since Jan 2004
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Posted on 8/9/09 at 12:13 am to
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but it is not that inspirational , at least not to me.


that's because you're not a crackhead
Posted by ValentiTiger
Prairieville
Member since Aug 2008
665 posts
Posted on 8/9/09 at 12:14 am to
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a crackhead coming clean is suppose to be inspiring?


yup
Posted by BayouBengals03
lsu14always
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Posted on 8/9/09 at 12:15 am to
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that's because you're not a crackhead

the majority of people aren't crack heads.
Posted by ValentiTiger
Prairieville
Member since Aug 2008
665 posts
Posted on 8/9/09 at 12:18 am to
basically, if you read this dudes story and realize how deep he was into this shite, to turn it around and be where he is now is very lucky, but inspirational too. He had a dream to become a MLB player, hit a bump in the road that almost cost him everything, then got it all together and here he is. That is why its inspirational.
Posted by charlottetiger
Asheville, NC
Member since Nov 2007
7964 posts
Posted on 8/9/09 at 12:23 am to
At least it elminates the "who's on steroids?" discussion for a day.
Posted by AlexLSU
Member since Jan 2005
25341 posts
Posted on 8/9/09 at 12:24 am to
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I guess as a person who has made some wrong choices in life, i see his story as an inspiring one. I never got into drugs or anything like that, but I do see what drugs do to people even if it is their choice to go that route. Coming out of it and turning your life around is huge in my opinion. You take the "hard arse" approach and that's cool. One day something like this might happen close to you and you will think differently.


This is fricking weak. So if you make a huge mistake (like being a crackhead), you want people to pat you on the back if you kick the habit? Sorry, but that is something a weak person would do, and hey, if you are a crackhead, there's a good shot that you are a weak person. It's not being a "hard arse" to think that this story is inspirational. I have no pity at all for him unless he was born into an environment that pushes drug use (which he didn't come from).

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He had a dream to become a MLB player, hit a bump in the road that almost cost him everything, then got it all together and here he is. That is why its inspirational.


This is even worse. So if I go through college in four years and graduate with a degree, I am less inspiring than a kid that flunks out once, gets his shite together, and graduates eventually? I don't see people overcoming obstacles that THEY cause as inspirational.
This post was edited on 8/9/09 at 12:26 am
Posted by BayouBengals03
lsu14always
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Posted on 8/9/09 at 12:27 am to
I guess it is inspirational that he was able to get out of it. But the ENTIRE story really isn't that inspirational.
Posted by ValentiTiger
Prairieville
Member since Aug 2008
665 posts
Posted on 8/9/09 at 12:37 am to
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So if I go through college in four years and graduate with a degree, I am less inspiring than a kid that flunks out once, gets his shite together, and graduates eventually?


I never made any comparison like that. I just said that his story was inspirational. I dont see where hamilton is asking for pats on the back. He turned his life around for him and him only. He took control of what he was doing and got it right. Why shite on him for that? Saying "whatever" to that is in fact the "hard arse" approach. He was killing "himself", not anyone else. Then he woke up one day and quit and got his life back on track. I dont approve of crackhead actions just like you, and I too know it is a personal choice to become a crackhead, but when a crackhead comes out of the bottom of the barrel to become successful at whatever it is, I think they do deserve a little credit. If you dont, its all good.
Posted by CatsGoneWild
Pigeon forge, Tennessee
Member since Jan 2008
13356 posts
Posted on 8/9/09 at 12:43 am to
Its pretty sad when people bring up situations that happened in January. Can you remember every mistake you made 8 months ago? Although he is a Christian, he is human and does make mistakes. Do I agree with what he did, no. Have I struggled with things Ive turned away from, yes. Christians strive to be as good as they can, but they do make mistakes. Why does the media always try to points fingers every time a Christian makes a mistake, but dont acknowledge the good things they do? We see this with Tebow, they are always trying to find faults with him. Lately they brought up virgin questions. Grow up and realize that there are athletes who do this kind of stuff every day and get away with it. But, its OK for them.....right?
To go from the life he used to have, and be where he's at now......is an act of God. It takes a man to admit what he did as soon as he did it, instead of hiding it from his wife and others.
Posted by AlexLSU
Member since Jan 2005
25341 posts
Posted on 8/9/09 at 12:45 am to
I don't really feel bad for people who get themselves into trouble. I've got a handful of brokedick friends who just do drugs and nothing else, and honestly, I don't feel sorry for them. We come from the same background, and we all make unwise choices. It's the frequency and severity of these choices that shapes where we are now, though. Alcohol, drug, and cigarette abuse are all things that people can prevent. If a kid is born into a household with two crackhead parents, I feel for that kid. Coming from that is inspirational. Coming from a nice background with millions of dollars in front of you, not so much.

It's really just up to the individual though. I have never been one to sympathize with people who knowingly put themselves in bad situations

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Its pretty sad when people bring up situations that happened in January. Can you remember every mistake you made 8 months ago? Although he is a Christian, he is human and does make mistakes. Do I agree with what he did, no. Have I struggled with things Ive turned away from, yes. Christians strive to be as good as they can, but they do make mistakes. Why does the media always try to points fingers every time a Christian makes a mistake, but dont acknowledge the good things they do? We see this with Tebow, they are always trying to find faults with him. Lately they brought up virgin questions. Grow up and realize that there are athletes who do this kind of stuff every day and get away with it. But, its OK for them.....right?
To go from the life he used to have, and be where he's at now......is an act of God. It takes a man to admit what he did as soon as he did it, instead of hiding it from his wife and others.


I agree that this story is pretty much bullshite. He should have to answer to his wife and his wife only in this situation. It's really a nonissue, but the media lives off of this kind of stuff. Josh Hamilton eating whip cream off of some strange girl's tits sells newspapers and gets website hits.
This post was edited on 8/9/09 at 12:48 am
Posted by 1ranter1
Louisiana
Member since Dec 2008
10398 posts
Posted on 8/9/09 at 1:09 am to
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He turned his life around for him and him only.


And he is the only one to blame for needing it turned around.

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He took control of what he was doing and got it right.


After he fricked it up and did it wrong for a couple years.
Posted by SCUBABlake
RIP WT6
Member since Jan 2008
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Posted on 8/9/09 at 1:31 am to
A point that has yet to be made is the reason he started on the downward spiral is because he was in the car with his parents on the way back from a game, the car was hit by a dump truck, killing both of his parents instantly. While that's not an excuse to get into drugs, it's still pretty fricking traumatizing. Just food for thought...
Posted by emmanuellewis
Baton Rouge
Member since May 2009
3266 posts
Posted on 8/9/09 at 1:50 am to
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the car was hit by a dump truck, killing both of his parents instantly


His parents weren't killed. They were injured and couldn't travel to his games, as they had always done. Being a Reds fan, I've heard his story quite a bit. Seems like he had a very sheltered upbringing. When his parents were injured, it was the first time he'd ever had any freedom. I think its a pretty cool, unusual story.

And people are making a big deal out of it because it isn't just some guy having a couple of beers and trying to get laid. The guy is a hardcore drug addict and still has a personal assistant that doesn't allow him to carry large sums of money. That doesn't mean you have to give a shite, but people who are josh hamilton fans certainly should.
Posted by LfcSU3520
Arizona
Member since Dec 2003
24466 posts
Posted on 8/9/09 at 5:07 am to
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the car was hit by a dump truck, killing both of his parents instantly.


this is really really false.

His story doesn't have to be inspirational to everyone. I'm sure it's inspirational to people who are at the depths of despair and those who find inspiration from standard feel good stories. Hell, some people get inspired watching 'Rocky'. Whatever blows your hair back.

This is what a lot of idiots in this thread are forgetting. You don't have to look at his story as being inspirational. You don't really have to care about it at all.

But acting like you can't understand how he's been to the pit of human hell, to a much better place in his life would resonate with a large portion of people is dumb. There are lots of people who struggle with addiction of all different sorts, and if they have someone to look up to then so be it.
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